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Old 06-21-2015, 01:27 PM   #16
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:28 PM   #17
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Nobody says pro football? Aren't all the officials (except for a handful) basically spot hires from college and high school coaching ranks or maybe even gym teachers and other assorted jocksniffers?
The problem isn't the officials. Its the rules, which really, really suck now.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:29 PM   #18
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Baseball umpires are pretty bad, particularly balls and strikes.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:52 PM   #19
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Baseball umpires are pretty bad, particularly balls and strikes.
If they're consistent with their zone though-out the game I have no issues. It has to be difficult at the major league level wearing a mask, squatting behind a catcher that constantly moves about, calling balls and strikes. Fastballs at 90+ mph with movement and breaking pitches that fall off the table. I think the umpires do okay considering.

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Old 06-21-2015, 11:59 PM   #20
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I would go with Professional Wrestling. Those Refs fall for the same stuff time and time again.
I know! They never see the outside interference or foreign objects until it's too late!
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:50 PM   #21
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If they're consistent with their zone though-out the game I have no issues. It has to be difficult at the major league level wearing a mask, squatting behind a catcher that constantly moves about, calling balls and strikes. Fastballs at 90+ mph with movement and breaking pitches that fall off the table. I think the umpires do okay considering.
I don't buy this. They've had to work their way up the system. If they can't handle squatting, the system would weed them out long before they get the callup to The Show. And they aren't the ones who have to hit those pitches, or catch them. But my personal pet peeve is umpires who make their calls strictly if the throw beats the runner, because they are too lazy to get into proper position to see if the tag was applied.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:21 PM   #22
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I would go with Professional Wrestling. Those Refs fall for the same stuff time and time again.
I know...They're just like us Horseplayers LMAO.....
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:37 PM   #24
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Roller Derby. The refs just prolong the fights.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:54 PM   #25
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Nobody says pro football? Aren't all the officials (except for a handful) basically spot hires from college and high school coaching ranks or maybe even gym teachers and other assorted jocksniffers?
A good friend of mine was an on field official in the NFL for 20 years. He now works for the NFL full-time off the field with a team that evaluates the performance of each official EVERY game.

To answer your question, no the officials are not spot hires. They pay their dues at lower levels usually starting in high school and then moving up to NCAA. To get to the NFL each official is scrutinized as though they were applying to the CIA. Their on-field and off-field performance must meet high standards. There are officials who get fired every year for shoddy on-field work.
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A good friend of mine was an on field official in the NFL for 20 years. He now works for the NFL full-time off the field with a team that evaluates the performance of each official EVERY game.

To answer your question, no the officials are not spot hires. They pay their dues at lower levels usually starting in high school and then moving up to NCAA. To get to the NFL each official is scrutinized as though they were applying to the CIA. Their on-field and off-field performance must meet high standards. There are officials who get fired every year for shoddy on-field work.
Which NFL refs were fired over the last 5 years (give me one per year starting in 2010) and what was the specific reason (game, call, etc) they were let go. And no the replacements don't count.
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Which NFL refs were fired over the last 5 years (give me one per year starting in 2010) and what was the specific reason (game, call, etc) they were let go. And no the replacements don't count.
11 officials turned over between the 2013 and 2014 seasons. 2 were retirements. The NFL doesn't comment on personnel matters for the same reason other employers don't.

But 2 retired. 9 others weren't there anymore.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...uietly-changes
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Which NFL refs were fired over the last 5 years (give me one per year starting in 2010) and what was the specific reason (game, call, etc) they were let go. And no the replacements don't count.
I've got better things to do than make up stories about NFL refs. My post was simply to add a differing perspective to an obviously ignorant post.
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11 officials turned over between the 2013 and 2014 seasons. 2 were retirements. The NFL doesn't comment on personnel matters for the same reason other employers don't.

But 2 retired. 9 others weren't there anymore.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...uietly-changes
Of course they don't comment, they're the NFL, their silence speaks volumes.
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Of course they don't comment, they're the NFL, their silence speaks volumes.
If you have a point why don't you just make it?
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