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Old 01-08-2021, 01:17 PM   #241
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I try not to do long posts, ....
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Old 01-08-2021, 07:07 PM   #242
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Margie,

I try not to do long posts, but posted tweets are often rumors which can become poison as we saw the other day. Here's a fact checker which attempts to be unbiased.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...l-rumor-sprea/

There’s no proof antifa stormed the Capitol. The rumor spread quickly anyway

"Despite all of the groundwork and documentary evidence, social media users and allies of the president floated an alternate explanation for the insurrection.

The siege was not the fault of Trump supporters, they said. Instead, it was led by antifa, a broad left-wing coalition of anti-fascist activists.

There’s no evidence that’s the case, and specific individuals who were rumored to be antifa activists don’t actually support the movement. One man identified as an "antifa thug," for example, was a known supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory who also backs Trump.
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"I do not believe that the group of people who ‘broke through security’ at the Capitol were actually Trump supporters," said Kevin McCullough, a radio personality, in one of the earliest posts PolitiFact identified. "There have been multiple reports that antifa was planning on infiltrating the crowds."

The antifa narrative soon gained traction on Parler, a social media platform popular with conservatives, and on Twitter. An NBC News analysis identified thousands of tweets posted Jan. 6 that alleged that antifa activists were "posing" as Trump supporters.

Lin Wood, an attorney who has filed lawsuits seeking to overturn the presidential election, said on Parler that he had "indisputable photographic evidence" of antifa involvement. Twitter suspended his account for claiming the Capitol breach was "staged."

Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin warned of "fake DC ‘patriots’ used as PLANTS." Other Republican politicians promoted similar rumors about antifa, including Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, and Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama.

"This has all the hallmarks of Antifa provocation," Gosar tweeted at 2:04 p.m.

"Rumor: ANTIFA fascists in backwards MAGA hats," Brooks added 16 minutes later.

The rumors grew more prominent on TV news networks that evening.

"We did have some advanced warning that there might be some antifa elements masquerading as Trump supporters in advance of the attack on the Capitol," Brooks told Fox News host Lou Dobbs, repeating the rumor he shared on Twitter.

Similar speculation came during other Fox News programs hosted by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and others. Fellow host Laura Ingraham said the rioters "were likely not all Trump supporters." Newsmax aired similar claims.

Those broadcasts came before Congress reconvened to count the electoral votes and confirm Joe Biden’s victory. The next morning, radio host Rush Limbaugh drove the false narrative home to millions of listeners.

"Republicans do not join protest mobs, they do not loot, and they don't riot to the grand disappointment of many people," Limbaugh said. "But a tiny minority of these protesters, and undoubtedly including some antifa Democrat-sponsored instigators, did decide to go to the Capitol to protest."

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Several social media posts claimed that specific people were really with antifa, using photos and screenshots. But these cases were disproven by PolitiFact and other fact-checkers.

One man is actually a known QAnon supporter who backs Trump and is referred to as the "Q Shaman." He wears face paint and a signature horned fur cap, and he had been photographed at other pro-Trump events before he was seen at the Capitol.

Another man accused of being antifa-aligned was identified by reporters who track extremism as a neo-Nazi, not an antifa activist.

Gaetz cited an article on the House floor that claimed that a facial recognition firm had matched two men seen in the Capitol to two Philadelphia antifa members. But the claims in that article have been disputed, and the firm denied having identified any antifa members.

Other claims promoted on social media were less specific but similarly lacking in evidence, such as the unsubstantiated allegation that antifa members were bussed to Washington, or the related claim that police escorted multiple buses in.

Paxton shared the rumor that "at least 1 ‘bus load’ of antifa thugs infiltrated peaceful Trump demonstrators." The rumor appeared to originate with a commentator who cited an anonymous former FBI agent and no other evidence. The FBI declined to comment.
"There’s no proof antifa stormed the Capitol. The rumor spread quickly anyway"

This very well may be true; however, it seems that the term "antifa" has taken on a greater meaning...sort of a cover term for ANY group that could be put into play to incite violence. Copy the MO but able to be disproved as authentic to bring about confusion and doubt.

If not one or several of the authentic antifa terrorist groups, I firmly believe that anti-Trump antagonists were planted with the intention of inciting some of the more, unfortunately, willing and easily led pro-Trumpers. Actually, it's very similar to how, on a larger scale, willing and easily led anti-Trumpers are motivated, as well. I'm sure you have seen the inciting videos incriminating some of the Demo leaders.

With five years of proven lies and deception, the anti-Trumpers, and all that that entails, have brought these suspicions upon themselves.

BTW, I appreciate you taking the time to write your carefully thought-out, albeit unusually long post.
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:21 AM   #245
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Well, there you go...at least one BLM inciter on site and proven to be in the Capitol Building. Anyone believe that he was the only one?

Excellent presentation by Roman Balmakov of The Epoch Times. https://www.theepochtimes.com/

As Roman said, the key to prevent being taken down -- OWN YOUR OWN SERVER.

Hey, if Hillary can do it, anyone (with enough finances) can!!

Fantastic find, OntheRail.

PS: NOTHING Trump said was even remotely close to "inciting" his supporters to VIOLENCE. FACT!
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:50 AM   #246
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I’ve never been afraid of my government. Occasionally annoyed but damn lucky to have been born here. Compared to most everywhere else this is paradise.
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:11 PM   #248
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A friend sent me this today. He told me last month that Biden will never be president. Is he crazy?

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Old 01-09-2021, 07:26 PM   #249
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A friend sent me this today. He told me last month that Biden will never be president. Is he crazy?
Such horseshit
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Old 01-09-2021, 07:30 PM   #250
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https://nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-lett...v=7516fd43adaa

Make sure you read the Pence-Ryan link...
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Make sure you read the Pence-Ryan link...
I read it all.

I wish 10% of it was true
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How is it these people continue on and on and on with moving the goalposts of this fantasy?

This is beyond trolling and into the realm of mental illness.
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How is it these people continue on and on and on with moving the goalposts of this fantasy?

This is beyond trolling and into the realm of mental illness.
Not in Nye County, NV.
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I know...you can ONLY IMAGINE.

And I know, you're SO DISTURBED.

What you are is a FAKE and a PHONY. Go back to the UK and try and worm your way back into the EU where you belong.
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Charming as ever I see.
Too much?
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