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05-23-2012, 01:20 AM
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P.S. When I get them all listed, I will talk a little about them.
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05-23-2012, 10:59 AM
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Thanks to everyone.6000
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05-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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Very much looking forward to your pedigree analysis for the Belmont!
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05-23-2012, 06:05 PM
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A quick heads up for the thread followers
Just got off the phone with my best buddy and training mentor T Red Bernis
His grand nephew Brandon Menard has the double bug at EVD. According to Red this boy can ride and if he is anything like Red or Kenwood when they where in the saddle, watch out. Kid should have a bright future and is only 17. Red was one of the leading riders in the country in the late 60's and from the stories would do everything it took to get their first. Live mounts should be coming forthwith.
Last edited by turninforhome10; 05-23-2012 at 06:08 PM.
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05-24-2012, 12:51 AM
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Creative Cause
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05-24-2012, 12:54 AM
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05-24-2012, 12:56 AM
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05-24-2012, 01:34 AM
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I will eat the hat
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05-24-2012, 01:46 AM
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I'll Have Another. You have Sea Bird, Stage Door Johnny(Belmont winner) well just take a look. This is a pedigree to go 2 miles. I really expect him to excel at this distance. I am predicting now that if all goes as planned, you might see this guy's name as a sire of Belmont winner someday.
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05-24-2012, 01:52 AM
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05-24-2012, 01:56 AM
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That is all for today as my eyes are crossing.
Again thanks for reading and seriously, any questions, hit me up. That is what this thread is for.
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05-24-2012, 02:08 AM
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I don't think CC will be there , think he's pointing towards a grass race back West in July.
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05-24-2012, 02:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nijinski
I don't think CC will be there , think he's pointing towards a grass race back West in July.
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I figured that but he was listed on the PP's. Creative Cause is kind of screwed as I scoured the 3yo races in the west and his bet bet was grass. Nothing really happening. Thought of the Pacific Classic but the water might be little deep. Too bad there is not a straight 3yo race at Del Mar going long on the synth.
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05-24-2012, 02:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turninforhome10
I figured that but he was listed on the PP's. Creative Cause is kind of screwed as I scoured the 3yo races in the west and his bet bet was grass. Nothing really happening. Thought of the Pacific Classic but the water might be little deep. Too bad there is not a straight 3yo race at Del Mar going long on the synth.
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Think The DRF quoted trainer , 50-50 for The Swaps or the La Jolla at Delmar.
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06-01-2012, 11:46 AM
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Since there is much talk regarding UR ability to go 12 fur. lets put him under a microscope. First, he is from family 13-b http://www.tbheritage.com/HistoricDa.../Family13.html, This family has produced 4 winner of the Belmont Stakes see web link.
Most recently we have Seattle Slew and Colonial Affair from this family . Slew was from the Myrtlewood link which is family 13-c, a strong family of stallions. Slew won with speed to go long. Colonial Affair is from the immediate family of Glad Rags- 3rd dam of UR family 13-b. Colonial Affair was by Pleasant Colony- a known producer of stayers. Colonial Affair had a big middle move, long stride and loved Belmont. He was not a big name 2yo reflecting his sire ability to get better with age. UR was a good 2yo much as his 3rd dam Glad Rags who was Chmp 2yo in Ire. It seems the family does better with juveniles than older stayers. Looking back 9 gens with the List Descendants report you see this.
So, IMHO UR gets the distance based on running style and his love of Belmont. He will have to buck his pedigree to do this. Physicality of the horse vs pedigree is the question. If he runs like the Champagne, he is a real threat.
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