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[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Heeee's Baaaaack

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/a...the-antichrist

Heeee's a jackass for taking the bible literally.

Does he also think the earth is Bishop Ussher's age of around 6,.000 years old?
That Noah literally built a large boat to save all the earth's species?
From a global flood that never happened?

There is religion, and then there is superstition.

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[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

Heeee's a jackass for taking the bible literally.

Does he also think the earth is Bishop Ussher's age of around 6,.000 years old?
That Noah literally built a large boat to save all the earth's species?
From a global flood that never happened?

There is religion, and then there is superstition.

Why so triggered?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Why so triggered?

I am not. Just making an important point.
This is lust another absurd conspiracy theory with boxcarian overtones.
Par for the course on Off Topic.

Listen to Louis and Ella. Then maybe you guys might get it.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

I am not. Just making an important point.
This is lust another absurd conspiracy theory with boxcarian overtones.
Par for the course on Off Topic.

Listen to Louis and Ella. Then maybe you guys might get it.

Your point isn't important though.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Your point isn't important though.

I am ashamed you converted.
Read Maimonides "The Guide for the Perplexed"

It seeks to explain certain obscure figures which occur in the Prophets, and are not distinctly characterized as being figures. Ignorant and superficial readers take them in a literal, not in a figurative sense

Religious metaphor, btw is not limited to only Judaism.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

I am ashamed you converted.
Read Maimonides "The Guide for the Perplexed"

I'm glad you're ashamed, because after reading what you've written here for decades, you're not even a Jew any longer, for all practical purposes. So I must be doing something right if you're ashamed of me.

[PaceAdvantage]

Thus, our question, correctly stated, is not if parts of our Torah should not be taken as factual or accurate. The Torah is entirely “true” – the precise words of the God of truth. The question is only if God intended His words to be understood as literal truth or at times more figuratively.

A second general point I should make is that generally speaking, this is not something we need to figure out on our own. When God gave Moses the Torah, He also gave him the Oral Law, explaining how the Written Torah was to be understood. (See here for more details on this.) The Oral Law tells us when laws and episodes of the Torah are to be understood literally and when more figuratively.

With these introductions, I think the general pattern we find in the Torah is that the vast majority of it is taken as literal truth. Certainly entire episodes such as the Flood and the Exodus occurred more or less as described.

https://www.aish.com/atr/Is-the-Torah-Literal.html

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I'm glad you're ashamed, because after reading what you've written here for decades, you're not even a Jew any longer, for all practical purposes. So I must be doing something right if you're ashamed of me.

So I guess boxcar really did do a job on you?

The greatest problem in religion is confusing the metaphorical and a analogous, for the literal. Religion becomes as "classic comic" of itself. You might as well read Shakespeare's Hamlet as a short story about Denmark physical history

There is no Satan, no anti-Christ or "forces of evil" except that of our own making within ourselves

Satan in Judaism is not a physical being ruling the underworld, rather, in the Torah, the word Satan indicates “accuser,” “hinderer” or “tempter.” Satan is therefore more an illusory obstacle in one’s way - such as temptation and evil doings - keeping one from completing the responsibilities of tikkun olam (fixing the world). Satan is the evil inclination to veer off the path of righteousness and faithfulness in God.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

So I guess boxcar really did do a job on you?

The greatest problem in religion is confusing the metaphorical and a analogous, for the literal. Religion becomes as "classic comic" of itself. You might as well read Shakespeare's Hamlet as a short story about Denmark physical history

There is no Satan, no anti-Christ or "forces of evil" except that of our own making within ourselves

Satan in Judaism is not a physical being ruling the underworld, rather, in the Torah, the word Satan indicates “accuser,” “hinderer” or “tempter.” Satan is therefore more an illusory obstacle in one’s way - such as temptation and evil doings - keeping one from completing the responsibilities of tikkun olam (fixing the world). Satan is the evil inclination to veer off the path of righteousness and faithfulness in God.

Hey douchebag, who mentioned Satan? Not me.

I don't need lessons from you, in case you haven't noticed.

Just because there may be no literal Satan, doesn't mean there aren't plenty of evil douchbags in the world worshipping the non-entity.

Does that make him any more or less real or dangerous?

Think for a moment, asshole...before you say anything else really stupid.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by hcap

So I guess boxcar really did do a job on you?

The greatest problem in religion is confusing the metaphorical and a analogous, for the literal. Religion becomes as "classic comic" of itself. You might as well read Shakespeare's Hamlet as a short story about Denmark physical history

There is no Satan, no anti-Christ or "forces of evil" except that of our own making within ourselves

Satan in Judaism is not a physical being ruling the underworld, rather, in the Torah, the word Satan indicates “accuser,” “hinderer” or “tempter.” Satan is therefore more an illusory obstacle in one’s way - such as temptation and evil doings - keeping one from completing the responsibilities of tikkun olam (fixing the world). Satan is the evil inclination to veer off the path of righteousness and faithfulness in God.

I thought you were leaving as a gift to mankind.And take your evil ways with you.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Hey douchebag, who mentioned Satan? Not me.

I don't need lessons from you, in case you haven't noticed.

Just because there may be no literal Satan, doesn't mean there aren't plenty of evil douchbags in the world worshipping the non-entity.

Does that make him any more or less real or dangerous?

Think for a moment, asshole...before you say anything else really stupid.

You are getting dumber each day. There are bad people and bad things happen, but they are not explained by your non-entity "Satan"

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
...Ecclesiastes 3


Murphy's law is not evil, it is just is and very random

The Bishop and his spokesman classhndcapper invoked Satan and a lot of other crap in religious terms. Remember, you creepy ignorant bitching, quick to insult screwball?

You, and your crew here have "The Exorcist" and "The Omen" on endless loop in your meager whiny brains

Instead of concocting house of cards superstitious bullshit, join Homer and quit.. hakn a tshaynik!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

I am not. Just making an important point.

YOU?????

[TJDave]

Two Jews arguing who’s a Jew on Shabbos no less...Oy, Gevalt!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

YOU?????

Do you have "Th Exorcist" and "The Omen" on endless loop like your pals here?
Simian actors and actresses?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

You are getting dumber each day. There are bad people and bad things happen, but they are not explained by your non-entity "Satan"

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
...Ecclesiastes 3


Murphy's law is not evil, it is just is and very random

The Bishop and his spokesman classhndcapper invoked Satan and a lot of other crap in religious terms. Remember, you creepy ignorant bitching, quick to insult screwball?

You, and your crew here have "The Exorcist" and "The Omen" on endless loop in your meager whiny brains

Instead of concocting house of cards superstitious bullshit, join Homer and quit.. hakn a tshaynik!

I'm sorry I insulted you before. Insulting you is like insulting someone who was born with a 20 IQ....or an infant....

Aww screw it...you're a ****ing moron. That's the bottom line.

I mean, look at this reply you just sent me. It makes ZERO sense in context. It's like you saw one key word, and puked up this premade response.

You have NO ****ING CLUE what you are responding to. You latch onto one word and vomit what you think I meant...when actually it had nothing to do with what I wrote.

You sir, are the least intelligent person on this forum, and that's saying A LOT.