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06-06-2021, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Studies by PEW Research find that skeptics and non-believers have a better knowledge of religion and the Bible than most believers. I have taken the PEW test and scored 80%, higher than any demographic. It follows that I am neither ignorant nor unwilling to learn.
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Knowledge of religion (as in any and all) is not the same as knowledge of the bible, which deals with divine revelation to God's covenant people. Only God's true covenant people have a genuine understanding of his revelation. The rest of the [religious and non-religious world alike] not so much.
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06-06-2021, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Knowledge of religion (as in any and all) is not the same as knowledge of the bible, which deals with divine revelation to God's covenant people. Only God's true covenant people have a genuine understanding of his revelation. The rest of the [religious and non-religious world alike] not so much.
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There are "Holy" books like the bible in all religions...and no proof whatsoever exists to suggest that the bible is more credible than any of the rest. Religions cannot be judged objectively, because, as they say..."beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
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06-06-2021, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Knowledge of religion (as in any and all) is not the same as knowledge of the bible, which deals with divine revelation to God's covenant people. Only God's true covenant people have a genuine understanding of his revelation. The rest of the [religious and non-religious world alike] not so much.
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Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Is that it?
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06-06-2021, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
There are "Holy" books like the bible in all religions...and no proof whatsoever exists to suggest that the bible is more credible than any of the rest. Religions cannot be judged objectively, because, as they say..."beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
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Of course, the bible can be "judged objectively". It's been found to be historically, archaeologically, geographically and prophetically accurate with zero contradictions or errors in orthodoxy or orthopraxy.
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06-06-2021, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
It's been found to be historically, archaeologically, geographically and prophetically accurate with zero contradictions or errors in orthodoxy or orthopraxy.
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In whose delusions?
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06-06-2021, 05:53 PM
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In whose delusions?
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I believe you were the one who was delusional years ago when you took your three swings and you fanned out royally.
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06-06-2021, 07:25 PM
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Answer the question counselor
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06-06-2021, 08:11 PM
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Answer the question counselor
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I did. I basically told you to look in the mirror to see who really is delusional.
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06-06-2021, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Of course, the bible can be "judged objectively". It's been found to be historically, archaeologically, geographically and prophetically accurate with zero contradictions or errors in orthodoxy or orthopraxy.
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- Historically. Only back to about 1000 B.C.E. do Biblical events jibe with extra-biblical accounts. Even then there is a great lack of detail. Before that: no comfirmation.
- Archaeologically. As previously stated there is no confirmation that the cities of Sodom or Gomorrah ever existed. Also modern day Jericho does not fit the Biblical description, the modern city having never had any walls. Also the modern city of Nazareth dates from about 300 C.E. at the earliest.
- Geographically. So what? 3000 years ago an area about the size of New Jersey existed and still exists today. Big deal!
- Prophetically. Name a fulfilled prophecy. Nostradamus predicted a lot of stuff. If the prophecy is vague enough you can get something to fit. The only thing that even remotely fits is the founding of Israel which is (was?) a self-fulfilling prophecy. The United States, the USSR, Maoist China and the liberation of India also fit.
- Over 500 contradictions. FTFY
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06-06-2021, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
- Historically. Only back to about 1000 B.C.E. do Biblical events jibe with extra-biblical accounts. Even then there is a great lack of detail. Before that: no comfirmation.
- Archaeologically. As previously stated there is no confirmation that the cities of Sodom or Gomorrah ever existed. Also modern day Jericho does not fit the Biblical description, the modern city having never had any walls. Also the modern city of Nazareth dates from about 300 C.E. at the earliest.
- Geographically. So what? 3000 years ago an area about the size of New Jersey existed and still exists today. Big deal!
- Prophetically. Name a fulfilled prophecy. Nostradamus predicted a lot of stuff. If the prophecy is vague enough you can get something to fit. The only thing that even remotely fits is the founding of Israel which is (was?) a self-fulfilling prophecy. The United States, the USSR, Maoist China and the liberation of India also fit.
- Over 500 contradictions. FTFY
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Too bad when you came up to bat for your three swings, you struck out miserably with your so-called contradictions.
Also, there are numerous fulfilled prophecies. Again, did you snooze during my exposition of Daniel's 70 Weeks in in Daniel 9?
https://www.bibleprophecies.net/bibleprophecies.pdf
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06-07-2021, 02:56 PM
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Also, there are numerous fulfilled prophecies.
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Name one!
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06-07-2021, 03:09 PM
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I've posted entire sermons by Rabbi Singer where he points out GLARING inconsistencies between the Christian Bible and the Hebrew Bible...contradictions ABOUND.
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06-07-2021, 03:27 PM
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Which Scenario is Most Probable?
1. Christian Bible is right, Hebrew Bible is wrong
2. Christian Bible is wrong, Hebrew Bible is right
3. Christian Bible is right, Hebrew Bible is right
4. Christian Bible is wrong, Hebrew Bible is wrong
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06-07-2021, 03:55 PM
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Name one!
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Click on the link I sent you last night.
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06-07-2021, 03:56 PM
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#7665
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I've posted entire sermons by Rabbi Singer where he points out GLARING inconsistencies between the Christian Bible and the Hebrew Bible...contradictions ABOUND.
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Nope, he's as wrong as you were when you took your swings. You know how that works, right: The blind leading the blind?
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