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05-09-2021, 12:12 PM
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Best guess...
The CD legal team will tell the track to rule him off.
If he's allowed to return,the high profile nature of Baffert will lead to tons of unwelcome publicity that will affect the company's financial bottom line.
The CHRB on the other hand........ostrich meet sand.
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05-09-2021, 12:18 PM
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Suspending trainers is so useless if the horses aren't ruled out for 3/6/x months. Horses will just start running under Jimmy Barnes' name.
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05-09-2021, 12:18 PM
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Churchill has suspended him from the grounds.
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05-09-2021, 12:35 PM
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Location: Winnipeg
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Thank you CD for this move.
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05-09-2021, 12:36 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onesome
Suspending trainers is so useless if the horses aren't ruled out for 3/6/x months. Horses will just start running under Jimmy Barnes' name.
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Game can't afford to have horses ruled off, we can barely fill fields as it is. Force them to be moved to a new barn, a REAL new barn.
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05-09-2021, 12:36 PM
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The problem for horse racing is... Until trainers are really punished, the fines and purses lost from bad tests will be considered by them as no more than a cost of doing business.
Example. If BIG TRAINER X uses banned substances across the board, and gets caught 5% of the time, then the races won, purses won, and status achieved far outweigh any fines they might receive. Furthermore, if suspension just means putting all your horses into the wife's name or asst. trainer's name, then that suspension punishment is of no consequence either.
And NOW, as Baffert has shown, you can just get a lawyer and make up some wild excuse, and the punishment is ZERO.
Combine this with the fact that the powers that be in horse racing are large breeders and owners, who EMPLOY these trainers like BIG TRAINER X. So who's really going to do anything about it??
Last edited by Gander36; 05-09-2021 at 12:38 PM.
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05-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxicab
Best guess...
The CD legal team will tell the track to rule him off.
If he's allowed to return,the high profile nature of Baffert will lead to tons of unwelcome publicity that will affect the company's financial bottom line.
The CHRB on the other hand........ostrich meet sand.
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I hope you're right. This is getting ridiculous. As for the CHRB, agree. The CHRB is totally corrupt.
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05-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
One thing to remember is that the "oversized heart" story of Secretariat is racing's ultimate fish tale. Secretariat's heart WAS oversized- an x-ray showed it to be about 14 lbs., and this was reported during his racing career.
When he died, his necropsist claimed his heart was 22 pounds, but took no pictures and didn't save the heart. (When Phar Lap turned out to have a large heart in his autopsy, they saved it and documented it.) The same doctor claimed Sham's heart was 18 pounds, which is preposterous.
At any rate, back to Baffert. I assume he cheats. I also assume the greats of the past cheated too.
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I cringe when Secretariat's "oversized" heart is assumed to have imbued the horse with extra courage. To cast him as an exceptionally game horse is not only ludicrous (and completely inapplicable) romanticizing, but somehow sells his true legacy, that of a a singularly talented wonder-horse whose machine-like abilities stretched the limits of thoroughbred performance, short
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05-09-2021, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spalding No!
Will rumor be enough for it to suddenly be in Mandaloun's best interest to run off "only" 2 weeks rest in the Preakness?
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Considering his owners,I suspect that old Brad Cox will bring the "he's been kicking the stall door down" trainer tag out for this one.
And BTW:
How much of a nasty jackpot is Pimlico in if Baffert wants to run MS ?
You know they don't want him there.
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05-09-2021, 12:53 PM
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Given the amount of money handled across state lines, it’s time for the FBI to get involved. Something tells me he would have a hard time finding a lawyer to shoot off theories if the FBI comes knocking
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05-09-2021, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pandy
I hope you're right. This is getting ridiculous. As for the CHRB, agree. The CHRB is totally corrupt.
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Best guess part 2 Pandy:
CD won't let anybody connected to the Baffert barn ghost for him either.
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05-09-2021, 01:03 PM
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didnt OJ have a similar quote about finding the 'real' killer?
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05-09-2021, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Game can't afford to have horses ruled off, we can barely fill fields as it is. Force them to be moved to a new barn, a REAL new barn.
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05-09-2021, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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