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Old 08-04-2021, 04:25 PM   #1
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West Virginia Derby

We have the King of the Mountain, Mark Patterson, joining us tomorrow live to go over our picks for the late pick 4 for Saturday's card. Get ready for the West Virginia Derby with us at 3pm PT live on Degen Nation's #YouTube. Join us in the chat!

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Old 08-05-2021, 06:22 PM   #2
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We are live with Mountain Man Mark now talking the West Virginia Derby. Join us in the comments.
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:56 PM   #3
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I never liked the format of a group of talking heads trying to yell over each other. I find it very annoying, yet it must sell as it keeps going on.
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Old 08-05-2021, 09:04 PM   #4
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Will Peter berry be calling the races on Saturday?
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Old 08-05-2021, 10:34 PM   #5
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I never liked the format of a group of talking heads trying to yell over each other. I find it very annoying, yet it must sell as it keeps going on.
Then you would not like this podcast, at all. It got contentious between AJ Ryder and I. And the mood was loose.
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Old 08-05-2021, 10:36 PM   #6
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Will Peter berry be calling the races on Saturday?
No idea, PA. Sorry. Pete and I rarely commune, and management doesn't keep me in that loop. Which is just how I like it.

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Old 08-06-2021, 02:14 PM   #7
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Then you would not like this podcast, at all. It got contentious between AJ Ryder and I. And the mood was loose.
I too hate the "yelling over each other" format, FWIW, and I speak as someone who used to pay a lot of attention to MNR and would appreciate hearing Mark P's views, right or wrong, about races on WV Derby day.

Not trying to thread-jack, but what is the thinking behind putting so much MNR purse money into this day? It's the same at fellow West Virginia track Charles Town with their big Classic day (or days, if you count their big WV-bred day). Always struck me as incongruous to be watching $5,000 claimers racing for $13,000 (or whatever) as the MNR or CT staple and then have a single day with six figure stakes race purses.
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Old 08-06-2021, 05:05 PM   #8
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FWIW, I enjoyed listening to Mark last night on the triple clowns podcast. However, I would never tune in to listen to the other 3 babble about nonsense the majority of the time!
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Old 08-06-2021, 05:06 PM   #9
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Also, I’m with you on being against Bourbonic!
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Old 08-07-2021, 08:13 PM   #10
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As per our wager (AJ both knocked. my installation of Mr Wireless as ML favorite and solid stance on the horse as top selection, while foolishly insisting that no-hope Bourbonic could not lose), the vociferous Mr Ryder must for a period of one week do the degen nation podcast with a (fully appropriate) clown mask on.

And after forbearing his prolonged screaming, I do insist he honors the bet.
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Old 08-11-2021, 07:24 PM   #12
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So when will AJ honor his part of the losing bet, and don the clown mask?
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:30 AM   #13
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So when will AJ honor his part of the losing bet, and don the clown mask?
Friday, I've been assured.
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:48 AM   #14
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So when will AJ honor his part of the losing bet, and don the clown mask?
Normally I would let this drop. But the guy screamed and ranted that I'd made a horrible line, even insisting I had failed in my duty to the public. And he kept proclaiming at the top of his lungs that no hope Bourbonic, a deep-closer whose flukey Wood upset merited zero respect, and whose triple crown participation and subsequent rest in no way fit our race, would not only go favored, but take the wv derby. I took exception, strongly defending my installation of Mr Wireless as the favorite and characterizing the horse as most probable winner.

I was proven correct and him wrong on every point . His end of the wager now requires him to strap on a freaking clown mask and LEAVE the thing on for a full week's worth of podcasts. I think it's fair to say that my line was very accurate:

Morning Line .............. Closing Odds

Bourbonic 3-1 .................... (7/2)

Kinectic Sky 6-1 ................. (5-1)

Bourbon Thunder 8-1 ........... (7-1)

Mr Wireless 9/5 * ................ (8/5*)

Warrant 5/2 ........................ (9/5)

Americaine 50-1 .................. (90-1)

Special note: The late scratch of a 10-1 ML chance no doubt slightly lowered the odds of several potential contenders.

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Old 08-12-2021, 11:45 AM   #15
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Got to say, when I saw the PP's (Briss) the 4 looked a little slow. The good news is that I have been playing Da Mountain for a while and have learned my lesson. Did a little more digging and ended up agreeing with you. 8/5 is not what I was looking for and did not bet. Good job on the ML, and not just for this race, but every day.
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