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Lemon Drop Husker · 07-22-2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

A foul is a foul is a terrible rule no matter who the stewards are. It hasn't worked in the past and it will NEVER work.

I had the

. Maybe a bad call or not, it is truly an American racing problem.

Everybody should watch racing in Hong Kong. The American style of 'race riding' simply isn't allowed. Not even an inch. Get out of your lane by even a half path, and the jockey will likely be bench for a month. 6 paths?

Unless we get serious about 'herding' and 'race riding', there won't be a change. Hell, we even congratulate jockeys for such tactics.

Best horse should win. That really isn't the end game of the industry right now.

ronsmac · 07-22-2018, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP

lets get back to a foul is a foul so we take control away from the 3 blind mice.

There would be a dq in every race. Horses foul each other out of the gate all the time.

GMB@BP · 07-22-2018, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ronsmac

There would be a dq in every race. Horses foul each other out of the gate all the time.

I have almost never, ever seen a horse taken down out of the gate. If there is a rule for a foul out of the gate, I have certainly never seen it.

GMB@BP · 07-22-2018, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

I had the

. Maybe a bad call or not, it is truly an American racing problem.

Everybody should watch racing in Hong Kong. The American style of 'race riding' simply isn't allowed. Not even an inch. Get out of your lane by even a half path, and the jockey will likely be bench for a month. 6 paths?

Unless we get serious about 'herding' and 'race riding', there won't be a change. Hell, we even congratulate jockeys for such tactics.

Best horse should win. That really isn't the end game of the industry right now.

Your hong kong example is exactly my point, a lot of this stuff would disappear if there were real penalty.

How about 30 day suspensions for intentionally causing your horses to make contact 15 days for accidental. Riders would be a whole lot careful. Would clean stuff up in no time.

Andy Asaro · 07-23-2018, 09:09 AM

Tom · 07-23-2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP

My track opinions, for what they are worth

Inside is not as good as the outside, no bias really in terms of running style on the main track.

You have to be much the best right now on the turf if you have no speed, mid and front pack runners have been dominant.

I've got a note for the turf to look for closers early in them eet, while the grass is lush and longer, early speed later on when it gets trampled down more.

Might be a speedy meet all along this year.

GMB@BP · 07-23-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

I've got a note for the turf to look for closers early in them eet, while the grass is lush and longer, early speed later on when it gets trampled down more.

Might be a speedy meet all along this year.

speed did not do as well yesterday, I think everyone became aware of the situation and the paces increased.

jay68802 · 07-23-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP

speed did not do as well yesterday, I think everyone became aware of the situation and the paces increased.

I did not keep records or look at any charts, but yesterday they seem to be faster early than the day before.

And in response to Andy's tweet. Growing up in the Midwest I learned early on that there is one thing about bull-riding to remember. Do not do it.

GMB@BP · 07-23-2018, 12:44 PM

Attendance up??? I thought it was down and people didnt want to go?

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...n_summer_meet#

Andy Asaro · 07-23-2018, 03:05 PM

This is handle on races run at Del Mar. Not all sources.

On Track handle down a little.

Brick and Mortar off track in California down a little.

ADW in California UP about 900K.

Total in California up about 400K.

Out of State up over 5 and ½ million.

2018 Total handle on races run at Del Mar = $62,850,571

2017 total handle on races run at Del Mar = $56,696,533

AndyC · 07-23-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP

Attendance up??? I thought it was down and people didnt want to go?

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...n_summer_meet#

Fake news. DMR reported 28,213 fans for Saturday versus 16,568 in 2017. Despite drawing 11,645 more fans the handle only went up $86,952 on track. So a crowd increase of 70.3% fueled a handle increase of only 3.6%. If in fact, there were as many fans as reported then they weren't at DMR to bet horses. It might have been the reggae concert after the races that drew the crowd. The concert is free with a paid admission to the track.

GMB@BP · 07-23-2018, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyC

Fake news. DMR reported 28,213 fans for Saturday versus 16,568 in 2017. Despite drawing 11,645 more fans the handle only went up $86,952 on track. So a crowd increase of 70.3% fueled a handle increase of only 3.6%. If in fact, there were as many fans as reported then they weren't at DMR to bet horses. It might have been the reggae concert after the races that drew the crowd. The concert is free with a paid admission to the track.

ahh the old hat give away spinner trick...glad thats not done anymore at any of the tracks.

Andy Asaro · 07-23-2018, 07:11 PM

Probably doesn't belong in this thread as much as others but it's a pretty cool thing that happened.

Andy Asaro · 07-23-2018, 07:12 PM

dilanesp · 07-23-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

https://twitter.com/DRFPrivman/statu...05554276913152

I remember a pick 6 that was 4 singles and two bought races....