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Old 01-12-2019, 11:50 AM   #1
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NYRA's 2019 Gift: editor's note: we don't know what should be written here

All maiden special weight and allowance purses have been cut - and there are sub-$10K claimers at NYRA for the first time since 2012.
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All maiden special weight and allowance purses have been cut - and there are sub-$10K claimers at NYRA for the first time since 2012.
Can you post a link to the story about all NYRA MSW and allowance purses being cut? Thanks.
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Can you post a link to the story about all NYRA MSW and allowance purses being cut? Thanks.
Yeah I'd like to see that. Everything I see says the opposite.
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Wasn't getting rid of the cheap claimers the solution to avoiding the high number of breakdowns?

What is different this time?

I had read they were trying to get permission to have higher purses for cheaper horses to draw from other tracks?

Might as well cut the other purses - where are the NYSB horses going to go?


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After a horrible year for NYRA at all three tracks, I am breaking my boycott of GP for the first time in many years.

They have big fields....time to go where the horses are.
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:30 PM   #7
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Wasn't getting rid of the cheap claimers the solution to avoiding the high number of breakdowns?

What is different this time?

I had read they were trying to get permission to have higher purses for cheaper horses to draw from other tracks?

Might as well cut the other purses - where are the NYSB horses going to go?


OP......

After a horrible year for NYRA at all three tracks, I am breaking my boycott of GP for the first time in many years.

They have big fields....time to go where the horses are.
They didn't cut the purses, they've raised them this winter. It's fake news.
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Wasn't getting rid of the cheap claimers the solution to avoiding the high number of breakdowns?

What is different this time?

I had read they were trying to get permission to have higher purses for cheaper horses to draw from other tracks?

Might as well cut the other purses - where are the NYSB horses going to go?


OP......

After a horrible year for NYRA at all three tracks, I am breaking my boycott of GP for the first time in many years.

They have big fields....time to go where the horses are.
They didn't get rid of cheap claimers, they limited how high the purse could be for them. I think they set a limit of double the claiming price. For a while we had things like 10k claimers running for 30k, maybe even more, don't remember the exact number.
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So I should delete this thread, right?
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So I should delete this thread, right?
Eventually I would but I'm curious to see how the OP responds. If he's not too busy researching defunct oddball track layouts.
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They didn't get rid of cheap claimers, they limited how high the purse could be for them. I think they set a limit of double the claiming price. For a while we had things like 10k claimers running for 30k, maybe even more, don't remember the exact number.
Yeah, that's what I meant - they needed to offer higher purses.

Might as well X it if it is not true.
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Yes, I was wrong about the purse cuts for maiden and allowance races, but not about the $8K claimers - and the $16,000 purse for them is the lowest we've seen at NYRA since 2010: In 2012 open $7.5K claimers on the Aqueduct inner track had a purse of $29,000 if less than a mile and $30,000 if a mile or over - and even $7.5K N2L claimers had a purse of $25,000 if less than a mile and $26,000 if a mile or over (route bonuses were abolished at NYRA starting with the first Belmont meet in 2014, one of the last racing jurisdictions to do so).

So PolitiFact would rate my claim at least "Half True," if not "Mostly True."

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Yes, I was wrong about the purse cuts for maiden and allowance races, but not about the $8K claimers - and the minimum $16,000 purse for them is the lowest we've seen at NYRA since 2010: In 2012 open $7.5K claimers on the Aqueduct inner track had a purse of $29,000 if less than a mile and $30,000 if a mile or over - and even $7.5K N2L claimers had a purse of $25,000 if less than a mile and $26,000 if a mile or over (route bonuses were abolished at NYRA starting with the first Belmont meet in 2014, one of the last racing jurisdictions to do so).

So PolitiFact would rate my claim at least "Half True," if not "Mostly True."
Those purses are due to the rule in place now about claiming price to purse ratio, and frankly I think it was a very good rule.
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Those purses are due to the rule in place now about claiming price to purse ratio, and frankly I think it was a very good rule.

Why is it a very good rule - when it places NYRA at a competitive disadvantage with other tracks in the area, such as the determinedly bleak (I've been there several times) Parx, who ran a $7,500 N2L claimer which had a purse of $19,000 on Tuesday?
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Why is it a very good rule - when it places NYRA at a competitive disadvantage with other tracks in the area, such as the determinedly bleak (I've been there several times) Parx, who ran a $7,500 N2L claimer which had a purse of $19,000 on Tuesday?
I believe they run open $5,000 claimers for $25,000 the few times when they card such conditions.
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