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Old 01-04-2019, 06:11 PM   #61
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How long before people who are working without being paid are going to start getting "sick"?

Not very it turns out.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/04/p...ing/index.html
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:32 PM   #62
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:41 PM   #63
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How long before people who are working without being paid are going to start getting "sick"?

Not very it turns out.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/04/p...ing/index.html
my wife got paid on the 31st. it'll be interesting to see if she gets paid on the 15th if this keeps on. So so far everybody has been paid up to their last pay period. The fifteenth will be the date we find out if they continue to pay or not.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:08 PM   #64
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The dems have no leverage at all or Pelosi wouldn’t be making the claim “we can’t get anything done until we reopen government”. She knows she has nothing and that trump is serious about keeping it closed
Umm... wut?

She made the exact same claim on December 11th. Nothing she has said has changed. She also isn't asking for anything. Trump wants something from her... that's the definition of leverage.

Worst negotiator ever...
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:16 PM   #65
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he doesn't need to negotiate. he can pay for the wall anytime he wants to. I will post this again for you slow guys lol. And this is from a liberal rag.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2402442002/
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:16 PM   #66
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Umm... wut?

She made the exact same claim on December 11th. Nothing she has said has changed. She also isn't asking for anything. Trump wants something from her... that's the definition of leverage.

Worst negotiator ever...

Maybe Trump should hire that guy that wrote "The Art of the Deal" for him and have him do the negotiations.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:18 PM   #67
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he doesn't need to negotiate. he can pay for the wall anytime he wants to. I will post this again for you slow guys lol. And this is from a liberal rag.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2402442002/
Then why the hell hasn't he?

Answer: Because USA Today Opinion Writers aren't exactly qualified to give legal political advice.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:23 PM   #68
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Also Brett Decker is one of the Authors for The Conservative Case for Trump...

Surely a liberal...

Next.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:26 PM   #69
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Maybe Trump should hire that guy that wrote "The Art of the Deal" for him and have him do the negotiations.
It's quite funny watching The Donald's fall from this brilliant deal-maker persona to the real life guy who can't close a paper bag.
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Then why the hell hasn't he?

Answer: Because USA Today Opinion Writers aren't exactly qualified to give legal political advice.
and you are?
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and you are?
Why hasn't he just done it then?

Edit) I can also take the extra two seconds to Google said liberal opinion writer, realize he's not just a pro-Trumper but has actually written a pro-Trump book, then arrive at the conclusion he may not be the best source.

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Then why the hell hasn't he?

Answer: Because USA Today Opinion Writers aren't exactly qualified to give legal political advice.
The article talks about selling USDA loans as commercial paper. There are two kinds of USDA loans, direct and guaranteed. Direct loans are loans of USDA money, usually with very low interest rates and very long terms. Rates are as low as 1% and terms are as long as 38 years. Hardly attractive as commercial paper, and I question that the USDA has legal authority to sell them. The other loans are from private lenders and are guaranteed by the USDA. You can't sell a loan you didn't make.
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The article talks about selling USDA loans as commercial paper. There are two kinds of USDA loans, direct and guaranteed. Direct loans are loans of USDA money, usually with very low interest rates and very long terms. Rates are as low as 1% and terms are as long as 38 years. Hardly attractive as commercial paper, and I question that the USDA has legal authority to sell them. The other loans are from private lenders and are guaranteed by the USDA. You can't sell a loan you didn't make.
I'll be honest... I didn't read it.

I do know a thing or two about USDA loans though as I do a few a month... he's going to raise billions selling USDA direct paper?



Hang on let me collect myself...



Okay... well...

Another problem with selling USDA paper is that the USDA Mortgage Insurance that backs it runs off of the FNMA rolling 60 Day average. USDA MI will not insure any mortgage with a stated rate above that 60 day average.

It's a look back model.

There would be no margin for it in the secondary market... at least not billions of dollars worth. You're selling outdated paper with outdated margins that are worse than you can get anywhere else in the secondary market.

Hardly attractive is an understatement.

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What if Trump invokes "emergency powers" due to threat to national security? The straw to break his back? There's no telling what he might do, being cornered the way he is.
There is a word for that......#WINNING!
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Why hasn't he just done it then?

Edit) I can also take the extra two seconds to Google said liberal opinion writer, realize he's not just a pro-Trumper but has actually written a pro-Trump book, then arrive at the conclusion he may not be the best source.
it's a last resort. even you know that lol
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