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View Poll Results: Who wins HOY? Accelerate or Justify?
Accelerate wins HOY 119 42.35%
Justify wins HOY 162 57.65%
Voters: 281. This poll is closed

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Old 11-03-2018, 06:50 PM   #1
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Does Accelerate now win HOY over Justify?

I say yes.


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Old 11-03-2018, 06:53 PM   #2
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You can say yes, but you know that will never happen....TC Winner is auto HOY.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:57 PM   #3
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I don't care personally, but voters aren't going to make Accelerate HOTY over Justify.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:58 PM   #4
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Justify in a walk.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:42 PM   #7
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only horse that can give him trouble at that track, and 9f, is City of Light.
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Before we get deeper into this topic, I should reiterate my strong belief that despite Accelerate’s victory in the Classic and whatever else happened in this Breeders’ Cup, Horse of the Year honors and the 3-year-old male championship were settled on the afternoon of June 9, when Justify became just the 13th Triple Crown winner. I went into depth on this in my pre-Breeders’ Cup column.


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Some folks have said that if Accelerate wins the Breeders’ Cup Classic, he is their Horse of the Year. And some folks appeared to be itching to cast their Horse of the Year vote for Accelerate well before the Classic was even drawn. How can I say that? Because for the last 2 1/2 months, Accelerate has ranked No. 1 in the NTRA’s weekly top 10 poll, comfortably ahead of Justify. And most, if not all, of the people who participate in that poll also have Eclipse Award votes.
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:29 PM   #9
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Well maybe Accelerate should win HOY but as someone says bets are on the Triple Crown Winner auto getting that award. So I think that all of us putting a mop on our heads and our noses in each others asses has same chance as winning HOY as Accelerate

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Old 11-03-2018, 08:36 PM   #10
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:45 PM   #11
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Yes

Two of Justify's 6 wins include a MSW and an ALLW, against nothing. That matters when comparing records.

No 3 yo he raced against has done anything since. At least City of Light won today.

Today showed why open company is so necessary to assess a 3yo.

Maybe, people will start noticing that Baffert becomes a very ordinary trainer when dopping protocols actually are enforced.
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:48 PM   #12
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Maybe, people will start noticing that Baffert becomes a very ordinary trainer when dopping protocols actually are enforced.
Time to open up off-topic now....Wow, what a stank post..
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:56 PM   #13
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I think that these are 2 separate questions. One question is who should get HOTY and the other is who will probably get HOTY. The answer to the 1st question is Accelerate. The answer to the 2nd is Justify. Winning the TC usually earns a horse HOTY but not necessarily. Omaha did not get HOTY when he won the TC.
Yes Justify did dominate the 3YO crop during his brief career but never beat or even faced open competition. How he would have fared against Accelerate who has proven himself against all comers, including an impressive BC Classic win, is a matter of speculation. However Justify will probably get HOTY because most non-racing fans never even think of racing beyond the Kentucky Derby or Triple Crown 1 day or 5 weeks a year, so they will probably pander to the ignorant masses and give it to Justify.

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Old 11-03-2018, 09:10 PM   #14
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HORSE OF THE YEAR

I find the horse of the year argument very confusing to address but I will try.
Justify retired after a very limited campaign. Justify did win the Triple Crown. Accelerate did a very convincing job of winning the horse of the year in any year ex a Triple Crown winner.


The question for the team/house, is if a TC winner retires, after their last big victory in the Belmont, does that assure them of an automatic HOY without a doubt, not to say that would be a strategy but it seems wrong
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Omaha did not get HOTY when he won the TC.
The award started a year after his 3 year old season, would have been tough to win it. facts matter!
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