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Old 01-12-2019, 05:43 PM   #16
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I believe they run open $5,000 claimers for $25,000 the few times when they card such conditions.

The 4th race on Monday is in fact such a race (purse $24,000).
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:00 PM   #17
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Yes, I was wrong about the purse cuts for maiden and allowance races, but not about the $8K claimers - and the $16,000 purse for them is the lowest we've seen at NYRA since 2010: In 2012 open $7.5K claimers on the Aqueduct inner track had a purse of $29,000 if less than a mile and $30,000 if a mile or over - and even $7.5K N2L claimers had a purse of $25,000 if less than a mile and $26,000 if a mile or over (route bonuses were abolished at NYRA starting with the first Belmont meet in 2014, one of the last racing jurisdictions to do so).

So PolitiFact would rate my claim at least "Half True," if not "Mostly True."
Your claim is they cut purses for maiden and allowance races and there are sub-10K claimers. The first part is 100% a lie (purses were actually raised substantially) and the second part was done for a reason (and now suddenly you're worried about them competing with Parx and THAT'S the negative).

So how in your mind is what you wrote "mostly true"? It's maybe 10% true and 100% irrelevant and misleading.
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When you pay $20,000 for nickle claimers, what deterrent is there to not run broken down sore horses for the big purse? Why would you care if your horse got claimed? You win a lot more than it's worth.

Aqu was having a lot of break downs that led to this rule.

At Aqu, would you rather play a field of 10 8K clainers ir a field of 5 25K claimers?
Probably not more than a beyer point or two difference anyways.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:14 PM   #19
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When you pay $20,000 for nickle claimers, what deterrent is there to not run broken down sore horses for the big purse? Why would you care if your horse got claimed? You win a lot more than it's worth.

Aqu was having a lot of break downs that led to this rule.

At Aqu, would you rather play a field of 10 8K clainers ir a field of 5 25K claimers?
Probably not more than a beyer point or two difference anyways.

But which races get the biggest fields - and therefore, make the most money for the Association?

When I was 12 years old (in 1971), NYRA had $3,500 claimers and $5,000 maiden claimers - and most of them had 14-horse fields, particularly at Saratoga, where Halo broke his maiden in I believe it was a $20K MCL.

And isn't it the track veterinarian's job not to allow a "broken down, sore horse" to run? And can't a trainer be fined for attempting to run such a horse and causing a late scratch?

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