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11-29-2021, 03:18 PM
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crusty old guy
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
You can find your answer by searching on the web on the subject (assuming you have an open mind). Plenty out there. I'm done with you. In your words, Fk you
Have a nice day
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Those answers don't explain away the physics in any realistic way, but nice try. You must be a (terrible) fiction writer with the stories you tell. Or maybe a journalist for a bottom-shelf supermarket tabloid? Does stupidity run rampant in your family or do you just practice it every day? And judging by your posts you don't have the control to be done. I sure as hell do. Buh-bye now.
Have a shitty day today and every day.
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11-29-2021, 03:37 PM
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#167
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Originally Posted by headhawg
Those answers don't explain away the physics in any realistic way, but nice try. You must be a (terrible) fiction writer with the stories you tell. Or maybe a journalist for a bottom-shelf supermarket tabloid? Does stupidity run rampant in your family or do you just practice it every day? And judging by your posts you don't have the control to be done. I sure as hell do. Buh-bye now.
Have a shitty day today and every day.
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11-29-2021, 05:57 PM
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#168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
Fiction. Vapor. Rumor.
Take your pick
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Not according to Spartacus Educational:
John Lester Quigley was a member of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested in New Orleans on 9th August, 1963, he requested a meeting with an FBI agent. Quigley was sent to interview Oswald. It has been suggested by Robert J. Groden that the "FBI, via Quigley, may have used the arrest as their chance to interview, or debrief" Oswald. It was later discovered that Quigley destroyed the notes he took during the interview.
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11-29-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Fiction. Vapor. Rumor.
Take your pick
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My pick is to quote from Volume IV of the WC, Mr. Quigley's testimony:
Orleans Police Department, on August 10, 1963.
Mr. STEEN. How did you come to interview Mr. Oswald?
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Mr. QUIGLEY. Lt. Francis L. Martello, platoon commander at the first district,
New Orleans Police Station, called our office and advised that he wished an
agent to stop by there since there was a prisoner who desired to speak with
an agent.
As a result of this telephone call, I proceeded to the first district.
Mr. STERN. Did you receire the telephone call?
Mr. QUIGLEY. So, sir; I did not.
Mr. DULLES. By agent, did he mean agent of the FBI?
Mr. QUI~LEY. Yes, sir; yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. You were assigned by someone in your office to take this assignment?
Mr. QUIGLEY. That is right. This was on a Saturday, which we operate on
a skeleton staff. We do not have a full staff on a Saturday.
Mr. STERN. Were you accompanied by any other agent of the FBI in making
this interview?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I was not.
Mr. STEEN. Is that normal, under your procedures?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I would say yes. Agents operate independently unless there
is a specific reason for more than one agent to be present.
ElKabong, stop rattling off poppycock that you have no clue about. First you claimed Oswald went down the stairs, but you could not cite any source for that statement. Now, you claim that Oswald did not request to speak to an FBI agent and that he did not meet with one. Well, here it is, directly from the Warren Commission testimony of the FBI agent himself.
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11-29-2021, 11:36 PM
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#170
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Registered User
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Mr Quigley? Sounds like a children's bedtime story book author
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11-30-2021, 12:19 AM
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#171
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranchwest
Not according to Spartacus Educational:
John Lester Quigley was a member of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. When Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested in New Orleans on 9th August, 1963, he requested a meeting with an FBI agent. Quigley was sent to interview Oswald. It has been suggested by Robert J. Groden that the "FBI, via Quigley, may have used the arrest as their chance to interview, or debrief" Oswald. It was later discovered that Quigley destroyed the notes he took during the interview.
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Hard to take you guys seriously on this stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_Educational
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center "the site simply reproduces a host of conspiracy theories that first appeared elsewhere" and "many of the books repeatedly cited in footnotes are other conspiracist tracts offering their own speculations".[3] Arthur Goldwag, author of Cults, Conspiracies, and Secret Societies and The New Hate: A History of Fear and Loathing on the Populist Right, described it as "very shoddy, not well-sourced".[3]
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Last edited by ElKabong; 11-30-2021 at 12:21 AM.
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11-30-2021, 02:05 AM
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#172
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Hard to take you guys seriously on this stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_Educational
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center "the site simply reproduces a host of conspiracy theories that first appeared elsewhere" and "many of the books repeatedly cited in footnotes are other conspiracist tracts offering their own speculations".[3] Arthur Goldwag, author of Cults, Conspiracies, and Secret Societies and The New Hate: A History of Fear and Loathing on the Populist Right, described it as "very shoddy, not well-sourced".[3]
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Uh, the Spartacus article jives with the Warren Commission testimony. But your best stab at a response is that the FBI agent's name sounds like a children's author. Such is your best effort.
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11-30-2021, 03:24 AM
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#173
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isn't the Southern Poverty Law Center just left loony propaganda?
why would anyone quite them?
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11-30-2021, 05:52 AM
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#174
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Our next door neighbor was an Irish women who was outside sobbing. We were just coming home from school when she told us JFK had been killed. My mom forced us to watch the television day of the funeral. It was my birthday.
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I remember my mom crying also. One of my favorite teachers in jr. high school took the whole class out into the basement hallway to give us the news. Not sure why he took us into a semi-dark hallway.
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11-30-2021, 09:04 AM
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Just Deplorable
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Well, that's where we went for nuclear bomb attack practice in those days. Maybe he was expecting something even more dire.
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11-30-2021, 09:43 AM
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#176
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PA Steward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
You think he was going to say "I'm going to Disneyland" ???
I'm not hung up on the word patsy. Eyewitnesses, fingerprints, 2 dead people from his weapons etc etc. That's what interests me
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But you DO seem HUNG UP on Oswald's personality and personal life and lack of achievements. You've posted the same thing about him more than once in this thread as if to bolster your argument.
Is it not fair game then to point out that Oswald claiming he was a PATSY, does not fit your profile?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 11-30-2021 at 09:46 AM.
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11-30-2021, 04:31 PM
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#177
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
But you DO seem HUNG UP on Oswald's personality and personal life and lack of achievements. You've posted the same thing about him more than once in this thread as if to bolster your argument.
Is it not fair game then to point out that Oswald claiming he was a PATSY, does not fit your profile?
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More on the facts than anything. Who owed the weapon...whose fingerprints were on the weapon...shell casings by the weapon and window... shot and killed a cop according to multiple witnesses....ran into the texas theater where he pulled a gun on cops....
Yet people don't believe he shot anyone.
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12-01-2021, 02:13 PM
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#178
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
More on the facts than anything. Who owed the weapon...whose fingerprints were on the weapon...shell casings by the weapon and window... shot and killed a cop according to multiple witnesses....ran into the texas theater where he pulled a gun on cops....
Yet people don't believe he shot anyone.
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I think Oswald shot Kennedy through the neck, I think there were multiple gunman. Oswald was the only one caught. The Warren Commission report was purposely inaccurate painting Oswald as a lone gunman. My feeling was the government did not exactly know what happened and did not want to admit it.
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12-01-2021, 03:39 PM
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#179
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The Voice of Reason!
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I think the SS shot him by accident is plausible...but I really can't wait for the "Bobby" thread to start!
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12-01-2021, 06:53 PM
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#180
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Registered User
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Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
More on the facts than anything. Who owed the weapon...whose fingerprints were on the weapon...shell casings by the weapon and window... shot and killed a cop according to multiple witnesses....ran into the texas theater where he pulled a gun on cops....
Yet people don't believe he shot anyone.
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I am not a you people, and yet I am open to suggest killing someone in a moving car is really a tough task. I absolutely believe he fired a shot, not sure he was able to hit the President. Oh that sweet smell of gunpowder upwind, several could smell gunpowder who were inside a moving motorcade. Discounting these things are as insignificant is just another mistake. This is not something that can be wrapped up to put a bow on it. First admit that they have been lying to you your whole life, and maybe it started before we were born.
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