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07-13-2021, 07:31 PM
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#9496
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Phinney
Tell me that the human body doesn't undertake an immune response that creates the anti-bodies and I'll shut up.
The vaccine introduces or gives instructions to the body to create a spike protein. Everything that happens after that is the body doing it's thing.
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Two ways the the immune system works: 1)antibodies 2) CELL MEDIATED destruction of antigens...
Not just a simple one phase system
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07-13-2021, 07:46 PM
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#9497
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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No one ever heard of killer T lymphocytes?
from Wikipedia:
Most cytotoxic T cells express T-cell receptors (TCRs) that can recognize a specific antigen. An antigen is a molecule capable of stimulating an immune response and is often produced by cancer cells or viruses. Antigens inside a cell are bound to class I MHC molecules, and brought to the surface of the cell by the class I MHC molecule, where they can be recognized by the T cell. If the TCR is specific for that antigen, it binds to the complex of the class I MHC molecule and the antigen, and the T cell destroys the cell.
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07-13-2021, 08:26 PM
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#9498
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 5,346
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
No one ever heard of killer T lymphocytes?
from Wikipedia:
Most cytotoxic T cells express T-cell receptors (TCRs) that can recognize a specific antigen. An antigen is a molecule capable of stimulating an immune response and is often produced by cancer cells or viruses. Antigens inside a cell are bound to class I MHC molecules, and brought to the surface of the cell by the class I MHC molecule, where they can be recognized by the T cell. If the TCR is specific for that antigen, it binds to the complex of the class I MHC molecule and the antigen, and the T cell destroys the cell.
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After 5 posts of attempting to explain natural immune response, Dr. Three Degrees consults with Wikipedia.
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07-13-2021, 08:37 PM
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#9499
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Posts: 26,301
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xtb
After 5 posts of attempting to explain natural immune response, Dr. Three Degrees consults with Wikipedia.
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too lazy to type it all
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07-15-2021, 08:57 PM
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#9500
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Los Angeles to reimpose mask mandate even for the vaccinated Saturday. Oh well so much for those promises of getting vaccinated and not wearing a mask. These idiots never stop.
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...covid-19-surge
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07-15-2021, 10:01 PM
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#9501
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,768
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
for Thursday July 8, 2021
22,000 cases
300 deaths
cases up 5000 from prior Thursday
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for Thursday, July 15, 2021
37,000 cases
300 deaths
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07-15-2021, 10:22 PM
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#9502
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
for Thursday, July 15, 2021
37,000 cases
300 deaths
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Cases are up. It's time to panic.
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07-16-2021, 04:02 AM
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#9503
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poindexter
Los Angeles to reimpose mask mandate even for the vaccinated Saturday. Oh well so much for those promises of getting vaccinated and not wearing a mask. These idiots never stop.
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Prediction:
It will be largely ignored without consequence.
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07-16-2021, 08:05 AM
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#9504
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: donkeys ride from ASD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave
Prediction:
It will be largely ignored without consequence.
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Not for the kiddies in school it wont be.
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07-16-2021, 10:22 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-biden-latest
quote: Covid-19 cases are rising in every state, with some states seeing as much as double the number of cases as last week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Public health experts point to the more transmissible Delta variant, a slowdown in vaccinations and surges from the Fourth of July weekend as the main factors behind the surge.
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07-16-2021, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Lexington, KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-biden-latest
quote: Covid-19 cases are rising in every state, with some states seeing as much as double the number of cases as last week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Public health experts point to the more transmissible Delta variant, a slowdown in vaccinations and surges from the Fourth of July weekend as the main factors behind the surge.
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And this is where the line has been drawn, Goofball. Safe to say if someone hasn't been vaccinated by now...it isn't happening. What are you Control Freaks going to do now???
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07-16-2021, 07:31 PM
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#9507
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
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Data as of July 9 2021 for the UK at the WorldOMeters site:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
7 Day Moving Avg, New Cases Daily - UP
7 Day Moving Avg, New Deaths Daily - Flat
See thumbnail images below.
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Last edited by Jeff P; 07-16-2021 at 07:35 PM.
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07-16-2021, 07:49 PM
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Data as of July 9 2021 for Sweden at the WorldOMeters site:
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/
7 Day Moving Avg, New Cases Daily - Flat
7 Day Moving Avg, New Deaths Daily - Flat
Surprised there's anyone still alive in Sweden to compile the data. 
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Last edited by Jeff P; 07-16-2021 at 07:55 PM.
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07-17-2021, 09:47 AM
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#9509
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
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If you are vaccinated, you are safe.
STFU.
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07-17-2021, 01:42 PM
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New coronavirus cases were up at least 10% in 46 states, with each infection increasing the chance of a dangerous virus mutation.
MUTATION viruses were the major cause of deaths in 1918
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