The coronavirus

[46zilzal]

for comparison, the NIH states the mortality rate from the 1918 epidemic. Mortality rates varied between countries and continents, but mortality in Europe has been estimated to be 1.1%

U of Minnesota, suggests that his might be higher. (2.3%)...but it is TOO early to make direct comparisons as the Spanish Flu data was retrospective.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...-23-death-rate

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

for comparison, the NIH states the mortality rate from the 1918 epidemic. Mortality rates varied between countries and continents, but mortality in Europe has been estimated to be 1.1%

U of Minnesota, suggests that his might be higher. (2.3%)...but it is TOO early to make direct comparisons as the Spanish Flu data was retrospective.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...-23-death-rate

So 100 years later people are still hanging meat out overnight for bats to shit on it, it is just the species protecting itself from the stupid food and hygiene practices that inept governments allow.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Why promote panic dan?

So he can BIOT. Why else?

We have had FAR worse in the past, and we got through it all.
Remember West Nile in NYC, 1999? People dying HERE.
OH, wait, CLINTON was prez then.......

Fact is, Trump is the reason is is so limited here so far.
Just the chicken-little's of the world.

Here is the key - Global Warming will lessen the spread, so pray for warmer weather!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

for comparison, the NIH states the mortality rate from the 1918 epidemic. Mortality rates varied between countries and continents, but mortality in Europe has been estimated to be 1.1%

U of Minnesota, suggests that his might be higher. (2.3%)...but it is TOO early to make direct comparisons as the Spanish Flu data was retrospective.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...-23-death-rate

Ya think?

[woodtoo]

The mortality rate is higher because young people don't get it.
This is a good thing. It kills the old and weak and not young people so of course the mortality rate is higher.
Wash your hands with soapy water often and don't hang around international airports.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by Tom

Fact is, Trump is the reason is is so limited here so far.
Just the chicken-little's of the world.

Since ALL the major viruses of the world tend to move EAST to WEST, your dumb evaluation holds ZERO water.

If the Orange Buffoon were the reason, then why has Central and South America lagged behind the rest of the world as well?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...irus-maps.html

[Redboard]

Until more test kits become available, it's very hard to put a number to the mortality rate. Many people get it, have mild symptoms even without a fever, which go away in a couple days.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

Since ALL the major viruses of the world tend to move EAST to WEST, your dumb evaluation holds ZERO water.

If the President were the reason, then why has Central and South America lagged behind the rest of the world as well?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...irus-maps.html

Could it have something to do with the WARMER WEATHER that Tom alluded to and what Trump himself has stated as a future possibility for slowing the progress of the virus here? As well, you can not ignore the fact that Trump banned incoming travel from the most infected area early on. Give the guy (Trump) a break already, for God's sake!

[46zilzal]

His orangenss has consistently gone against the advice of his medical experts. NEED I SAY ANYMORE.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

His orangenss has consistently gone against the advice of his medical experts. NEED I SAY ANYMORE.

Yep, next stop "Martial Law"!....That should do the trick....All aboard!...

[Jeff P]

by Simone McCarthy
Published: 2:24pm, 8 Mar, 2020
South China Morning Post
Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures, but don’t bank on summer killing it off, studies say:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/scie...nt-bank-summer

• Pathogen appears to spread fastest at 8.72 degrees Celsius, so countries in colder climes should ‘adopt the strictest control measures’, according to researchers from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangdong province

• But head of WHO’s health emergencies programme says it is ‘a false hope’ to think Covid-19 will just disappear like the flu

The virus that causes Covid-19 may have a temperature sweet spot at which it spreads fastest, a new study has suggested, but experts say people should avoid falling into the trap of thinking it will react to seasonal changes in exactly the same way as other pathogens, like those that cause the common cold or influenza.

The study, by a team from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, the capital of south China’s Guangdong province, sought to determine how the spread of the new coronavirus might be affected by changes in season and temperature.

Published last month, though yet to be peer-reviewed, the report suggested heat had a significant role to play in how the virus behaves.

“Temperature could significantly change Covid-19 transmission,” it said. “And there might be a best temperature for viral transmission.”

The “virus is highly sensitive to high temperature”, which could prevent it from spreading in warmer countries, while the opposite appeared to be true in colder climes, the study said.

As a result, it suggested that “countries and regions with a lower temperature adopt the strictest control measures”.

Many national governments and health authorities are banking on the coronavirus losing some of its potency as the weather warms up, as is generally the case with similar viruses that cause the common cold and influenza.

However, a separate study by a group of researchers including epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch from Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, found that sustained transmission of the coronavirus and the rapid growth in infections was possible in a range of humidity conditions – from cold and dry provinces in China to tropical locations, such as the Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region in the far south of the country and Singapore.

“Weather alone, [such as an] increase of temperature and humidity as the spring and summer months arrive in the Northern Hemisphere, will not necessarily lead to declines in case counts without the implementation of extensive public health interventions,” said the study, which was published in February and is also awaiting scientific review.

The Guangzhou team based their study on every novel coronavirus case confirmed around the world between January 20 and February 4, including in more than 400 Chinese cities and regions. These were then modelled against official meteorological data for January from across China and the capital cities of each country affected.

The analysis indicated that case numbers rose in line with average temperatures up to a peak of 8.72 degrees Celsius and then declined.

“Temperature … has an impact on people’s living environments … [and] could play a significant role in public health in terms of epidemic development and control,” the study said.

It said also that climate may have played a part in why the virus broke out in Wuhan, the central China city where it was first detected.

Other experts, like Hassan Zaraket, an assistant director at the Centre for Infectious Diseases Research at the American University of Beirut, said it was possible that warmer, more humid weather would make the coronavirus less stable and thus less transmissible, as was the case with other viral pathogens.

“We are still learning about this virus, but based on what we know of other coronaviruses we can be hopeful,” he said.

The above article is similar to others I've been able to find poking around the web.

From what I can glean there are a few studies out there suggesting the virus is sensitive to temperature. But those studies aren't peer reviewed yet. It's a new virus and we're still learning about it.



-jp

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[46zilzal]

ALL KNOWN pathogens succumb to high temperatures: it coagulates the protein in their cell wall, capsids.

That is the principle of the autoclave.

Viruses being more pathogenic in the winter months has more to do with people being a close arrangements INDOORS due to the ambient temperature OUTSIDE than anything else.

[ReplayRandall]

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[TJDave]

First confirmed case of Coronavirus in the Coachella valley (Palm Springs and surrounding communities) reported this morning. Three hours later the BNP Paribas tennis tournament was ordered cancelled by the Riverside county board of health. This is a prestigious tournament which generates millions for the desert.

Our poker game has a pool on how long it takes for this place to become a ghost town.

No one guessed more than 10 days.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by TJDave

First confirmed case of Coronavirus in the Coachella valley (Palm Springs and surrounding communities) reported this morning. Three hours later the BNP Paribas tennis tournament was ordered cancelled by the Riverside county board of health. This is a prestigious tournament which generates millions for the desert.

Our poker game has a pool on how long it takes for this place to become a ghost town.

No one guessed more than 10 days.

Excellent news!!! I hope you win.