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03-24-2019, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SandyW
No lasix, no horses. Get ready for 6 and 7 races 3 days a week with 4, 5, 6 horse races.
Less then 4% of the horses racing today race without lasix.
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Well they are cutting back the dose this years and 2 year olds will race without next year.
Where are the horses going, most are owned locally. Turf paradise.
Most horses don’t need to race on lasix.
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03-24-2019, 01:43 PM
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#227
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Originally Posted by davew
If PETA gets rid of Lasix, I wonder what they will think when more horses coming down the stretch start blowing blood out of their nostrils.
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What do they do when the horses bleed in Europe, Hong Kong and Dubai.
If a juicer like narvarro can run in Dubai without lasix, than anyone can.
Allan
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03-24-2019, 02:14 PM
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#228
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
What do they do when the horses bleed in Europe, Hong Kong and Dubai.
If a juicer like narvarro can run in Dubai without lasix, than anyone can.
Allan
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trust me they use other stuff to prevent it there.
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03-24-2019, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Well they are cutting back the dose this years and 2 year olds will race without next year.
Where are the horses going, most are owned locally. Turf paradise.
Most horses don’t need to race on lasix.
Allan
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The horses that absolutely need lasix will be retired. The ones that start to bleed will be retired. owners aren't going to continue to pay training bills on horses that are bleeders and can't win. It's really that simple.
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03-24-2019, 02:24 PM
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In the long run, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to produce thoroughbreds that aren't bleeders?
Or taken a step further --
Given the publicity surrounding the spike in fatal breakdowns at Santa Anita and elsewhere, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to once again produce thoroughbreds that that are... ahem... durable? Capable of averaging ten starts per year instead of six? ( Per stats at The Jockey Club website.)
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03-24-2019, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
In the long run, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to produce thoroughbreds that aren't bleeders?
Or taken a step further --
Given the publicity surrounding the spike in fatal breakdowns at Santa Anita and elsewhere, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to once again produce thoroughbreds that that are... ahem... durable? (Capable of averaging ten starts per year instead of six?)
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Yes and yes.
But also, a dirty little secret: one of the reasons for the reduction in average starts has nothing to do with durability of horses- trainers do not like losing races because of published win percentages and don't want to run frequently or face bigger fields.
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03-24-2019, 02:47 PM
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Understood. (And agreed.)
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03-24-2019, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
If PETA gets rid of Lasix, I wonder what they will think when more horses coming down the stretch start blowing blood out of their nostrils.
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What about the bettors coming away from the windows with blood flowing out of their nostrils?
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03-24-2019, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
If PETA gets rid of Lasix, I wonder what they will think when more horses coming down the stretch start blowing blood out of their nostrils.
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The favorite in the Fair Grounds Oaks bled through Lasix yesterday pretty badly.
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03-24-2019, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
In the long run, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to produce thoroughbreds that aren't bleeders?
Or taken a step further --
Given the publicity surrounding the spike in fatal breakdowns at Santa Anita and elsewhere, wouldn't that incentivize major breeding farms to once again produce thoroughbreds that that are... ahem... durable? Capable of averaging ten starts per year instead of six? ( Per stats at The Jockey Club website.)
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that would be a total crap shoot for breeders and could take thirty to forty years or forever meaning never happens. they're not going to take that risk.
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03-24-2019, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
The favorite in the Fair Grounds Oaks bled through Lasix yesterday pretty badly.
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that is exactly what I figured probably happened. thankfully she didn't break a leg or something. she may be done though if that is the case.
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03-24-2019, 07:18 PM
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so how is peta going to react when they start seeing two or three horses a day come back to the grandstand after pulling up covered in blood
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03-24-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
The favorite in the Fair Grounds Oaks bled through Lasix yesterday pretty badly.
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That would explain why SERENGETI EMPRESS was leading until the top of the stretch and then coasting to a stop before the finish.
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03-24-2019, 08:01 PM
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Why did the horse need Lasix to compete?
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03-24-2019, 08:06 PM
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No more Turf horses from Downunder and aboard that were bleeders.
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