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Old 03-23-2019, 02:45 PM   #211
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If PETA doesn't keep the pressure on, Lasix will not be phased out.

I'm not going to dispute that
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:11 PM   #212
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If PETA doesn't keep the pressure on, Lasix will not be phased out.
so now we are rooting for PETA.....regardless, wont end well.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:18 PM   #213
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No lasix, no horses. Get ready for 6 and 7 races 3 days a week with 4, 5, 6 horse races.
Less then 4% of the horses racing today race without lasix.

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Old 03-23-2019, 07:41 PM   #214
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No lasix, no horses. Get ready for 6 and 7 races 3 days a week with 4, 5, 6 horse races.
Less then 4% of the horses racing today race without lasix.
Its being phased in though, starting with the two year olds?
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:46 PM   #215
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you get rid of lasix say goodbye to the industry whether you like it or not.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:53 PM   #216
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you get rid of lasix say goodbye to the industry whether you like it or not.
I guess all them horses will go to europe.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:00 PM   #217
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Or unsanctioned bush meets in places like Georgia and Louisiana, more likely.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:39 PM   #218
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No surprise PETA is barking loud in the state capitol.
The minute Santa Anita backed down from the needle brigade horse racing was on the way out in California.........it was the syringe that broke the horses back.
Why Santa Anita/CHRB continue to let the horsemen push them around is beyond me.
Plain and simple: If you ask all of the non horse racing aware public(and that would be voters for future reference).......99% of them are going to tell you injecting a race horse with any kind of drug is wrong..........don't like those odds when push comes to shove.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:25 PM   #219
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No surprise PETA is barking loud in the state capitol.
The minute Santa Anita backed down from the needle brigade horse racing was on the way out in California.........it was the syringe that broke the horses back.
Why Santa Anita/CHRB continue to let the horsemen push them around is beyond me.
Plain and simple: If you ask all of the non horse racing aware public(and that would be voters for future reference).......99% of them are going to tell you injecting a race horse with any kind of drug is wrong..........don't like those odds when push comes to shove.
The reason they let horsemen push them around is the same reason employers will sometimes agree to an unwise labor contract rather than risking a strike (or a union will do the same).

If you are going to take on the horsemen on Lasix, you will face a strike. The horsemen are absolutely committed to their doping of horses. They will refuse to enter. They will alao sue the track claiming that only the CHRB can ban it. That suit will probably fail but will cost money and take time. Meanwhile the track will sit and lose money.

It's a game of chicken. Perhaps the horsemen will blink and enter because they will be taking a huge hit too. But given their absolute commitment to Lasix, it's hard to see them backing down.

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Old 03-24-2019, 09:28 AM   #220
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I guess all them horses will go to europe.
not likely for various reasons. I think you will see 25% reduction in number of horses in races within six months. My question is can the industry afford a 25% reduction in starters considering the low number of starters in the field currently.
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I've said this before and it bares repeating. Lasix is not the problem in thoroughbred racing. They have one hell of a mess to clean up long before they start to deal with Lasix. Let's get all the rest of the mess straightened out before we tackle Lasix. It really is a tiny issue in the overall scheme of things. Then they need to go back to lasix detention barns to squelch the fear people have of lasix masking other drugs. The reason they got rid of detention barns is because they found out it really wasn't masking anything.
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If PETA gets rid of Lasix, I wonder what they will think when more horses coming down the stretch start blowing blood out of their nostrils.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:08 AM   #223
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I've said this before and it bares repeating. Lasix is not the problem in thoroughbred racing. They have one hell of a mess to clean up long before they start to deal with Lasix. Let's get all the rest of the mess straightened out before we tackle Lasix. It really is a tiny issue in the overall scheme of things. Then they need to go back to lasix detention barns to squelch the fear people have of lasix masking other drugs. The reason they got rid of detention barns is because they found out it really wasn't masking anything.
Lasix is an animal rights issue. IN CALIFORNIA, animal rights is by far the biggest threat to the sport.
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One wouldn't think that there was much similarity - indeed any at all - between horse racing and mixed martial arts. But now it looks as if there is: Various state athletic commissions - especially the Nevada State Athletic Commission - have been handing out draconian suspensions to fighters who have tested "positive" for substances contained in products that be purchased over the counter at any GNC outlet, causing a costly drain of some of the sport's biggest live and pay-per-view draws - like Jon Jones, who many if not most regard as the greatest MMA fighter ever.

If the Stronachs go through with this, they may very well be vindicated in the long run - but not before turning California into the same ghost town for racing as New York became for baseball when the Dodgers and the Giants left town - ironically, for California.

Call it The Big Apple's Revenge.
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Old 03-24-2019, 01:31 PM   #225
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Lasix is an animal rights issue. IN CALIFORNIA, animal rights is by far the biggest threat to the sport.
everything to do with animals is an animal rights issue now days. that doesn't mean anybody has to do anything about it.
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