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10-10-2015, 05:42 PM
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Can an owner declare an Objection?
I'm watching the Queen Elizabeth II at Keeneland and am waiting for my Trifecta payoff with a nice $40 horse on top. The 2nd place owner has declared an objection on the winner. The  and  were not even near each other. I never saw an owner do this in all my years of racing. Just curious. It did stay up, but had me worried.
Last edited by Longshot6977; 10-10-2015 at 05:44 PM.
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10-10-2015, 05:46 PM
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They should let bettors object, after all, bettors have a financial interest in the races outcome also.
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10-10-2015, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Longshot6977
I'm watching the Queen Elizabeth II at Keeneland and am waiting for my Trifecta payoff with a nice $40 horse on top. The 2nd place owner has declared an objection on the winner. The and were not even near each other. I never saw an owner do this in all my years of racing. Just curious. It did stay up, but had me worried. |
I'm guessing there is an error somewhere here. Unless the owner is the jockey, he can't lodge an objection. Even the trainer can't lodge an objection.
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10-10-2015, 06:15 PM
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I guess you missed where the #3 was almost put over the rail turning for home. Guess you missed where Donna Brothers said the jockey room was one sided in favor of DISQUALIFICATION! Blind, blind people.
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10-10-2015, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
They should let bettors object, after all, bettors have a financial interest in the races outcome also.
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Yes, that'd work out really well.
I had a financial interest in the coffee maker I just trashed actually working but sh** happens.
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10-10-2015, 06:18 PM
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Wow. Just Wow. Trainer and owner can and do lodge objections. Owner only did today cuz Motion was not there AND he was 100% right there should have been a DQ!
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10-10-2015, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
I'm guessing there is an error somewhere here. Unless the owner is the jockey, he can't lodge an objection. Even the trainer can't lodge an objection.
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Trainers can most certainly lodge objections.
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10-10-2015, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Longshot6977
The and were not even near each other. |
After watching the replay, you can see the does cut in on the at the top of the stretch near the 1/4 pole causing him to steady/check. But the question was more about owners declaring objections, not who was right or wrong. Thanks for the reply guys. I guess you do learn something new everyday.
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10-10-2015, 07:38 PM
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My understanding is the objection was accepted from the owner because the trainer (Graham Motion) was not present.
They got it right. Both horses were off the rail turning for home. Both went for the rail at the same time.
Awful ride by Draden Van Dyke.
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10-10-2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
I'm guessing there is an error somewhere here. Unless the owner is the jockey, he can't lodge an objection. Even the trainer can't lodge an objection.
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Incorrect the trainer can lodge an objection.
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10-10-2015, 09:00 PM
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All I want to know is.......can the Trainer lodge an objection?
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10-10-2015, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
They should let bettors object, after all, bettors have a financial interest in the races outcome also.
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And the owner doesn't?
You allow bettors to lodge objections and it would take an hour to make every race official.
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10-10-2015, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
All I want to know is.......can the Trainer lodge an objection?
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They do it often enough. I've never seen one work that I can remember though. Barry Abrams lodged one not too long ago and he was 100% right, but it only took the stewards about 4 seconds to tell him to piss off.
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10-10-2015, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ultracapper
And the owner doesn't?
You allow bettors to lodge objections and it would take an hour to make every race official.
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Not every bettor can lodge an objection, they would have to have a situation where a bettor would have to get an 'objection card' and that would entail proving he or she is a very big bettor. Also, they would track your objections, if you keep frivolously objecting, you lose your privileges, not every schmoe would be allowed to object.
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10-10-2015, 09:57 PM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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Just when you think it can't get more ridiculous.
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