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[FantasticDan]

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[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

There are no charges against Trump at this point so what does it matter?

You aren't answering you're dodging.

Quite frankly, if he personally had no involvement, and I'm inclined to believe that, why the hell is everyone so bent out of shape...?

Instead of just letting it continue you all claim "witch hunt! witch hunt!" when even if that was the case it has resulted in arrests and charges even the most ardent Trump supporter doesn't deny are legitimate.

But there are charges --numerous accusations. Avail yourself of a dictionary and look up the definition of "accusation". You might also lay your hands on a thesaurus to look up the verb "charge". Shirely, you're not going to tell us that Trump hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing, are you?

Are you that shallow of a thinker that you can't reason beyond the superficial to the very profound implications of a fake investigation motivated entirely by hate for Trump by his political enemies? You don't see a coups in the making? The dimwits and rinos feign such concern for preserving the sanctity of our most sacred and vaunted government institutions such as the DOJ and FBI and other agencies, and warn that if we dare call any suspicion on their activities, we're endangering the very fabric of our national existence which is built upon the Constitution. We'll have a crisis on on our hands, they say! God forbid!!! Long Live the Constitution! Let's do away with this horrible distraction and turn our attention again to the real "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are being rightfully investigated. Yada, yada, yada. Really? Well what about what the Constitution has to say about the right of Americans to duly elect a president to lead our country? It's funny how the dimwits are so big in getting everyone to exercise their constitutional right to vote when they conduct their huge "Get Out the Vote" campaigns prior to an election -- but then when the result of an election doesn't square too swell with them -- well then... screw the voters and the Constitution they rode in on and let's see what we can do to unseat this [duly elected] moron that we despise and replace him with someone we can live with. And in the process, we'll teach the morons who voted for Trump to not mess again with the enlightened establishment by voting for an outsider.

If you don't like this answer...I can probably do even better...

[woodtoo]

Your mothership has arrived. Boarding at five.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by boxcar

But there are charges --numerous accusations. Avail yourself of a dictionary and look up the definition of "accusation". You might also lay your hands on a thesaurus to look up the verb "charge". Shirely, you're not going to tell us that Trump hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing, are you?

Are you that shallow of a thinker that you can't reason beyond the superficial to the very profound implications of a fake investigation motivated entirely by hate for Trump by his political enemies? You don't see a coups in the making? The dimwits and rinos feign such concern for preserving the sanctity of our most sacred and vaunted government institutions such as the DOJ and FBI and other agencies, and warn that if we dare call any suspicion on their activities, we're endangering the very fabric of our national existence which is built upon the Constitution. We'll have a crisis on on our hands, they say! God forbid!!! Long Live the Constitution! Let's do away with this horrible distraction and turn our attention again to the real "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are being rightfully investigated. Yada, yada, yada. Really? Well what about what the Constitution has to say about the right of Americans to duly elect a president to lead our country? It's funny how the dimwits are so big in getting everyone to exercise their constitutional right to vote when they conduct their huge "Get Out the Vote" campaigns prior to an election -- but then when the result of an election doesn't square too swell with them -- well then... screw the voters and the Constitution they rode in on and let's see what we can do to unseat this [duly elected] moron that we despise and replace him with someone we can live with. And in the process, we'll teach the morons who voted for Trump to not mess again with the enlightened establishment by voting for an outsider.

If you don't like this answer...I can probably do even better...

This was a well thought out and written response for all to read but.....

you never answered his question, did you?

[davew]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Robert Mueller was FBI director when he signed the original FISA on Carter Page in 2013, he should resign because of this conflict. He is in this as deep as anyone.

With Carter Page's help the FBI brought down a Russian spy ring, he should be receiving a medal.

and others signing FISAs with Steele dossier as reason starting after Trumps nomination - Comey, Yates, Rosenstein, McCabe

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by davew

and others signing FISAs with Steele dossier as reason starting after Trumps nomination - Comey, Yates, Rosenstein, McCabe

And we would have never known of all these crimes and misdemeanors had the monster vote not elected the very stable genius Donald J. Trump!

He really did save America from itself. Just ask him.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

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We can do without the personal attacks and just have a conversation.

As far as I'm aware there haven't been any formal charges against Trump and the investigation appears to be wrapping up.

If nothing comes of it other than some heads roll like the ones already will this still be a deep state conspiracy? Or just an investigation that yielded some wrong doers and exonerated the President?

You people all act like he's been convicted for something... like he is guilty and now needs your defense.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

You people all act like he's been convicted for something... like he is guilty and now needs your defense.

No one is acting that way more than Trump himself..

[FantasticDan]

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[reckless]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/959713941969670144

Oh boy, Fan Dan ... you did it again. But, Lawrence Tribe??

You really need to find more upstanding persons if you wish to get your hate Trump message taken seriously.

BOSTON — Harvard professor Laurence H. Tribe, a constitutional law expert who often has argued before the Supreme Court, has admitted that he "failed to attribute" material from another scholar that appeared in his book.

Tribe, who could not be reached for comment, issued a statement Monday acknowledging that passages in his 1985 "God Save This Honorable Court" were borrowed from a book written in 1974 by Henry J. Abraham.

The above was lifted from liberal-leaning rag The Los Angeles Times, of all places ...

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep...ion/na-tribe29

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/959713941969670144

Laurence Tribe is supposedly an expert on the Constitution. I would expect more from him than a link without comment on a weak article that does not support its own premise.

As Tribe should know, the duties of the Speaker are not specified in the Constitution. The authority of the House and Senate is to legislate. Neither Tribe nor the article provide any evidence that Ryan or the House ceded any of that authority to the president.

In point of fact, it was Obama who did more to assault the authority of Congress than any president at least since FDR. Congress started taking back its authority in the later years of the Obama administration and continue to do so today. To his credit, Trump has accepted this without objection or attempts to fight it.

[GaryG]

But what is Carolyn O's opinion on this?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

We can do without the personal attacks and just have a conversation.

As far as I'm aware there haven't been any formal charges against Trump and the investigation appears to be wrapping up.

If nothing comes of it other than some heads roll like the ones already will this still be a deep state conspiracy? Or just an investigation that yielded some wrong doers and exonerated the President?

You people all act like he's been convicted for something... like he is guilty and now needs your defense.

But Trump's character surely has been impugned by the er..."informal" charges which are numerous.

And you clearly don't want to see the opposing point whatsoever. We're not acting as though Trump has been convicted anything! (Try to understand this once and for all, will ya?) We're acting as though the people who really should be investigated are the ones conducting the Trump investigation, as well as the powers behind them! We believe that the investigation is as phony as Steele's dossier because the mounting evidence points to this conclusion. And if this turns out to be the case, this means that the DOJ and FBI have been POLITICIZED, which truly would put the Law of the Land (a/k/a U.S Constitution) in jeopardy. How can justice be rendered in this nation when key federal law enforcement and the DOJ are motivated only by political concerns which have to do with achieving political ends? If this doesn't concern you, I would respectfully suggest you need a very loud wake up call!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

This was a well thought out and written response for all to read but.....

you never answered his question, did you?

And what question would that be: The one ET asked in 196 and I answered in 201?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

But Trump's character surely has been impugned by the er..."informal" charges which are numerous.

No offense but Trump already does enough on his own to question his character.

So basically the investigation is just being a big meanie by existing?