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09-24-2015, 07:50 PM
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Off the top of my head, I believe someone posted possibilities shortly after Obama won the last time.
I strongly believed Rubio would be an easy front runner and would have said Walker would be chasing him closely- given the relative success of his workplace issues.
Who woulda, coulda thunk that a total whack job like the Donald would be dominating the Con field with b.s. & bluster? Just because you yell, disgusting stuff out that the hoi polloi want to say, but can't, doesn't mean you're remotely qualified to be elected to the most powerful office in the free world!
Shocked.. at the steamroller of crap, that comes out of his mouth. No doubt, personality is key, along with not being caught out as a slack jawed rube, like a certain Texas Governor.
Funny, how so many of the candidates from both sides, have such skeletons in their closets and are really neither liked- nor admired. Sad prospects and pickings, really for America.
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09-24-2015, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rookies
Off the top of my head, I believe someone posted possibilities shortly after Obama won the last time.
I strongly believed Rubio would be an easy front runner and would have said Walker would be chasing him closely- given the relative success of his workplace issues.
Who woulda, coulda thunk that a total whack job like the Donald would be dominating the Con field with b.s. & bluster? Just because you yell, disgusting stuff out that the hoi polloi want to say, but can't, doesn't mean you're remotely qualified to be elected to the most powerful office in the free world!
Shocked.. at the steamroller of crap, that comes out of his mouth. No doubt, personality is key, along with not being caught out as a slack jawed rube, like a certain Texas Governor.
Funny, how so many of the candidates from both sides, have such skeletons in their closets and are really neither liked- nor admired. Sad prospects and pickings, really for America.
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What is sad is they actual think they can keep their skeletons in the closet when they run for president.
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09-24-2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by reckless
I could also tell you that the phony GOP establishment, with their poster boy Jeb front and center, that they will not do away with Obama Care if Jeb wins the 2016 election. They will only change the name and bury it under Medicaid.
The real suckers were people like you who believed the GOP in 2012 and 2014 when they ran on repealing, replacing, defunding and fixing Obama Care if they won majorities in Congress which they did. And, today, only the suckers are the ones that now believe the GOP when they say they need to win the Presidency too.
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It is not the "RINOS" or business republicans that have let you down. They are what they are and you know what get when you vote for one. It is the Tea Party republicans that have let you down. It is them that promised you the moon, but won't even deliver a meteorite. They have been around since 2010 have done any thing except a few things around the edge of "moral issues" like outlaw ADWs in Texas. The tea party guys have been around for years but never could get elected. Then the Tea Party came along and they get themselves elected somehow and now they just sit back and enjoy the perks of elected office. All they have and all they do is make speech for the suckers back home. They have no idea how to get a bill passed and are not about to learn. If they actually did something, the suckers, er, voters might expect them to do more. It is easier to nothing and complain about how Obama, the media, and the RINOs is blocking them doing anything. If they really wanted get rid of say Obamacare, they could by doing the same things Obama did to get it passed, but that would mean they actually have to do some work.
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09-24-2015, 09:11 PM
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It is the Tea Party republicans that have let you down.
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They are the only ones who have stood up for the people.
But hey, enjoy your delusions. Obama Care can't help you with them anyway.
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09-25-2015, 07:07 AM
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They are the only ones who have stood up for the people.
But hey, enjoy your delusions. Obama Care can't help you with them anyway.
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Stood up and done what except run their mouths like every other politician?
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09-25-2015, 10:46 AM
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Stood up and done what except run their mouths like every other politician?
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Agreed.
The Tea Party has been an absolute disaster from immediately after it's creation. A disaster for the GOP, congress, and the country.
What started out as a very unique, organic, and new-wave movement was quickly perverted by every crazy with an agenda.
The Tea Party is an example of why groups have mission statements.
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09-26-2015, 07:36 AM
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Awwww Rookies, The Donald ain't so bad...you're just not used to him...lol
As for the Tea Party, it seems Ely has been drinking the kool aid from their critics...
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09-26-2015, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Awwww Rookies, The Donald ain't so bad...you're just not used to him...lol
As for the Tea Party, it seems Ely has been drinking the kool aid from their critics...
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The Tea Party started out largely as a libertarian anti-tax and anti-regulation gross roots entity. It's now morphed jnto something completely different embracing so many different agenda's, like staunch social conservatism, that it doesn't really have an identity.
Its not drinking the kool-aid nor is it inaccurate to say it started out simply as a anti-tax movement. Now its name is much more ambiguous.
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09-26-2015, 10:42 AM
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09-26-2015, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
The Tea Party started out largely as a libertarian anti-tax and anti-regulation gross roots entity. It's now morphed jnto something completely different embracing so many different agenda's, like staunch social conservatism, that it doesn't really have an identity.
Its not drinking the kool-aid nor is it inaccurate to say it started out simply as a anti-tax movement. Now its name is much more ambiguous.
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Just how sure are you about that, I see that the numbers are growing that are anti establishment independent voters who will prove to be very problematic for the left in the next election.
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09-27-2015, 01:15 PM
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Just how sure are you about that, I see that the numbers are growing that are anti establishment independent voters who will prove to be very problematic for the left in the next election.
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I'm very sure.
You kinda are making my point. Now Tea Party equals Anti-establishment? Not really...
Look at Bernies numbers which are obviously anti-establishment and tell me those are tea party voters.
Hell, look at wikipedia's definition of the Tea Party:
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The Tea Party does not have a single uniform agenda. The decentralized character of the Tea Party, with its lack of formal structure or hierarchy, allows each autonomous group to set its own priorities and goals. Goals may conflict, and priorities will often differ between groups.
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Kinda rings to my point of having a mission statement. Everyone has their own opinion of what the Tea Party is... On this forum we have tea party supporters supporting Trump which is hilarious since he actually wants to tax the rich! The tea party is in reality is a group of right wing contrarians who have accomplished nothing.
Goren is right.
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09-27-2015, 01:45 PM
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Well, if Wiki says it, it must be true.
I get emails from the local TEA party, and they are never about "staunch social conservatism." They are about affecting change within constitutional restraints to make governments at all levels more efficient and accountable. If the TEA party hasn't accomplished enough in Washington to impress you, maybe you should look at more local levels. It's a long march.
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09-27-2015, 01:59 PM
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Those rebelling on the left supporting Bernie Sanders have a lot in common with the tea party. at the core they are both against the status quo system which favors the rich and connected. The big difference is on the left they blame the rich for being too rich and want government to punish them and bring about fairness, on the right the blame is put on big intrusive government and think the solution is to push back on Washington's relentless push to control and manage every aspect of our lives. if both sides could ever get over their small differences and unite, the Washington cartel vs the middle class and the poor, you'd have a revolution in the making.
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09-27-2015, 07:22 PM
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Well, if Wiki says it, it must be true.
I get emails from the local TEA party, and they are never about "staunch social conservatism." They are about affecting change within constitutional restraints to make governments at all levels more efficient and accountable. If the TEA party hasn't accomplished enough in Washington to impress you, maybe you should look at more local levels. It's a long march.
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Key word in that whole post is local. Wiki agrees with you.
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09-27-2015, 07:24 PM
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Those rebelling on the left supporting Bernie Sanders have a lot in common with the tea party. at the core they are both against the status quo system which favors the rich and connected. The big difference is on the left they blame the rich for being too rich and want government to punish them and bring about fairness, on the right the blame is put on big intrusive government and think the solution is to push back on Washington's relentless push to control and manage every aspect of our lives. if both sides could ever get over their small differences and unite, the Washington cartel vs the middle class and the poor, you'd have a revolution in the making.
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Except for the people on the right who identify as TPers and are supporting Trump as anti-establishment when he too wants to tax the rich.
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