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12-19-2018, 10:13 PM
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#1126
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
20 mares bred in 2017. Tying Missouri and two ahead of Utah.
Those 2 years old Jersey breds races will come up a bit light at the entry box.
Allan
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MO used to breed some winners back in the day of Kansas City racing stables and others-many moons ago
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01-15-2019, 02:47 PM
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#1127
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Final hold for th year 2018
Monmouth--12,000,000
Meadowlands--31,000,000
Allan
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01-31-2019, 09:08 PM
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#1128
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
Posts: 2,584
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Good to see Monmouth finally getting what's coming to them. Such a great track, but the cards there have been putrid the last few years.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-purse-subsidy
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02-17-2019, 10:26 AM
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#1129
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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January 2019 racetrack Hold on sports wagering
Meadowlands 7.000.000
Monmouth 2,000,000
Allan
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02-17-2019, 11:29 AM
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#1130
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Out-of-town Jasper
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,364
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
20 mares bred in 2017. Tying Missouri and two ahead of Utah.
Those 2 years old Jersey breds races will come up a bit light at the entry box.
Allan
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They will have to make them New Jersey / Utah bred races.
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03-18-2019, 06:47 AM
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#1131
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 2/28/2019
Meadowlands 15,000,000
Monmouth 2,700,000
Will hill sports book had a particularly tough super bowl result.
Allan
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03-24-2019, 05:17 PM
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#1133
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 2/28/2019
Meadowlands 15,000,000
Monmouth 2,700,000
Will hill sports book had a particularly tough super bowl result.
Allan
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Monmouth should improve on those numbers considering betting became legal right when the shore season ended. It's coming up again.
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03-24-2019, 07:03 PM
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#1134
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 341
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Maybe, but the prime sports wagering season is just over.
There were around 350 college basketball teams on the board this winter, probably more than 4000 games in 4 months. Plus college football and pro football. And last summer there was the World Cup.
Hockey is a non entity, and even the NBA is winding down. So you are left with baseball, which is around 2500 games in 6 plus months.
Unfortunately for Monmouth, their racing season does not align well for sports betting.
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03-24-2019, 07:25 PM
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#1135
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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Not sure how I missed this thread for so long.
FanDuel paid this out for the following reasons - lawyer fees and PR.
Legal sports betting is in it's infancy here.
That makes relevant legal case history non-existent.
There is no way to predict how this would be ruled upon.
Why take the chance of losing, in addition to paying attorneys?
$82K is a reasonable price to take a dose of medicine.
I've been on both sides of the counter with legal sports betting for 50 years.
The lesson the bookmaker would have to learn here is to tighten up rules.
"Palpable errors" was the term we had for it in Irish bookmaking.
Any obvious error made in the acceptance of a wager renders it null and void.
If any such term was not listed in their wagering rules and conditions,
then they were up a creek without a paddle.
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Last edited by horses4courses; 03-24-2019 at 07:30 PM.
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03-24-2019, 07:26 PM
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#1136
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 2/28/2019
Meadowlands 15,000,000
Monmouth 2,700,000
Will hill sports book had a particularly tough super bowl result.
Allan
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Do these numbers refer to profit, or $ amount handled in wagers?
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03-25-2019, 06:31 AM
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#1137
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Do these numbers refer to profit, or $ amount handled in wagers?
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Profits.
Meadowlands (betfair) is doing very well.
Monmouth (will hill) got killed in the super bowl. They should do better with March madness.
Allan
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03-25-2019, 11:36 AM
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#1138
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Profits.
Meadowlands (betfair) is doing very well.
Monmouth (will hill) got killed in the super bowl. They should do better with March madness.
Allan
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Impressive.
Especially if that number is 4%, or higher, of the total amount handled.
I suspect that it is a high % hold.
There has to be a lot of rookie bettor money in these new markets.
Gravy for bookmakers, and sharp bettors.
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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04-22-2019, 05:22 PM
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#1139
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 3/31
Meadowlands 32,600,000 (monster result from March madness)
Monmouth 5,400,000
Allan
Last edited by biggestal99; 04-22-2019 at 05:28 PM.
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04-28-2019, 07:35 PM
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#1140
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,851
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Those numbers you posted are a direct result of one thing, marketing. William Hill was asleep at the switch while Fanduel advertised in every major sporting event and continues to do so. Combine that with the TVG FanDuel show during football season a great marketing campaign offering a free up to $500 bet match and your so called competition is in a sleepy little NJ shore town awaiting the shore crowd to come by and bet. What Monmouth Park failed to do was market their product that failure created a monster at the Meadowlands. As more and more bettors open online accounts FanDuel will continue to crush William Hill.
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