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Old 08-30-2010, 02:56 PM   #1
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Beyer writes on Rachel and her Personal Ensign

http://www.drf.com/news/no-longer-ra...xandra-history

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But the disappointments of her 2010 season do not in any way tarnish what Rachel Alexandra accomplished last year. She was as good as any American female racehorse ever - including the legendary Ruffian. Her poor showing Sunday doesn't mean that her achievements were in any way a fluke. Her loss only demonstrates that she is flesh and blood, not a running machine.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:06 PM   #2
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I agree with Beyer but far too many people don't, and I think the connections kind of hurt her legacy (or the perception of her legacy) by not retiring her earlier.

It's all water under the bridge now but I wished they had retired her earlier this year.

For me the year she had in 2009 was extraordinary and I'll always remember it.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:08 PM   #3
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Well said.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:13 PM   #4
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Retire her?!? Just think of all the message board material that wouldn't have happened if they had quit on her. It'd be all take-out and polycrap all the time. We need her to keep running, the rest of this year, next year, and beyond!!
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:14 PM   #5
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I agree with rastajenk
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:18 PM   #6
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I agree with Beyer but far too many people don't, and I think the connections kind of hurt her legacy (or the perception of her legacy) by not retiring her earlier.
A dumb dumb dumb dumb move, and one that only kills the game more in the long run.

They should be APPLAUDED for keeping her in training, she isn't running up the track...she's still as game and as competitive as she always has been...
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:18 PM   #7
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Keep her in training but please change the rider.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:23 PM   #8
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http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com...confusing.html

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Here's the problem. The Saratoga surface Saturday was embarrassingly speed-biased. The first six races on the main track were all won by the early leader,


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Here's the other problem. The Saratoga surface seemed to slow down throughout the day.

Read more: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com...#ixzz0y7Qfd4jB
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:28 PM   #9
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:31 PM   #10
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Champions overcome tracks.
My point in posting the excerpts was that the surface played more to her strength than against it.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:35 PM   #11
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I'm ecsatatic that they didn't retire Rachael after her great season last year and as far as this year goes - she hasn't done a thing to embarrass herself. She's been right there in the races she has lost. I certainly hope they stay on track for the Beldame and then go to Churchill. Maybe it will be the Distaff but right now that is shaping up to be a tough race. No, I don't think that she can beat Blame or Quality Road at 10F but then I don't think Zenyatta can either.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:36 PM   #12
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My point in posting the excerpts was that the surface played more to her strength than against it.
It sounded like they were saying it was favoring speed less as the day went on.

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It sounded like they were saying it was favoring speed less as the day went on.

My bad.
The author was saying that. I'm not sure how much it slowed down during the day or if it could still be considered speed favoring when Rachel ran. CJ would know better than anyone.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:21 PM   #14
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Can't miss that wrap on her right rear ,guess she randown on that one.

The story and photo makes me sad , she is such an amazing filly if she
retires there will indeed be a void , but I'm sure they will do right by her.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:22 PM   #15
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I agree with Beyer but far too many people don't, and I think the connections kind of hurt her legacy (or the perception of her legacy) by not retiring her earlier.

It's all water under the bridge now but I wished they had retired her earlier this year.

For me the year she had in 2009 was extraordinary and I'll always remember it.

So racing should just keep retiring superstars after a good year? And people wonder why no one can catches on to the sport anymore.
First everyone complains when a superstar who runs lights out gets retired early,now it's that superstars should be retired after a good year or a loss to save their legacy.
What if RA wins the Beldame and the BC? I guess horses today cannot lose a race or two. If they do,they're done.

Man,imagine how many great seasons we would've lost in history by some people retiring horses early to save their legacy and prevent loses. The games changed I guess.

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