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05-23-2010, 01:39 PM
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Racing's Hole-In-One
Is there a racing equivalent to Golf's hole-in-one and, more importantly, have you ever achieved it?
Best wishes,
John
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05-23-2010, 01:44 PM
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Journeyman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfdinneen
Is there a racing equivalent to Golf's hole-in-one and, more importantly, have you ever achieved it?
Best wishes,
John
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Beyer said a cold trifecta is, but he was wrong, I believe.
Twice in my life, I've had five of six in a p6 on a single $2.00 ticket, both times with no consolation payoff, though I wouldn't have been much consoled. Both were on speed-biased tracks where I just picked the frontrunner in each race. Once, the first horse lost to my second choice, and the second time, the first firve horses won, the last died in a three-wide speed-duel, holding on for third.
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05-23-2010, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfdinneen
Is there a racing equivalent to Golf's hole-in-one and, more importantly, have you ever achieved it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassTrumpsSpeed
Beyer said a cold trifecta is, but he was wrong, I believe.
Twice in my life, I've had five of six in a p6 on a single $2.00 ticket, both times with no consolation payoff, though I wouldn't have been much consoled. Both were on speed-biased tracks where I just picked the frontrunner in each race. Once, the first horse lost to my second choice, and the second time, the first firve horses won, the last died in a three-wide speed-duel, holding on for third.
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I was going to say singling a Pick 6. (And, no, I have not.)
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05-23-2010, 01:57 PM
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I had a large one on a $8 ticket.
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05-23-2010, 02:26 PM
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Watch the movie Let It Ride.
That's racing's Hole-In-One.
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05-23-2010, 04:02 PM
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The Triple Crown
With approximately 40,000 thoroughbred foals per year, most of whom don't make it to the track, and most don't win a race, I'd have to say that winning the Three Triple Crown Races is just as rare as a "Hole in One," if not rarer.
We haven't seen one since 1978.
Even a hacker such as myself scored a hole in one in 2003.
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05-23-2010, 07:00 PM
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Maiden Winner: 1000/1
For those who have read my posts over the years, you will be aware that I rely on mathematics and not handicapping skill to turn a profit.
Claiming no fundamental handicapping expertise whatsoever, I can admit that I had the unexpected good fortune to land a 1000/1 winner (maximum price on Betfair) in a maiden race a couple of months ago which I think you will agree qualifies as a spectacular hole-in-one.
Best wishes,
John
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05-23-2010, 07:21 PM
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I would say singling a winner in all 9 races or singling a pick six ticket. That's my guess.
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05-23-2010, 07:24 PM
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What golf shot (or score) is even more rare than a hole-in-one?
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05-23-2010, 07:25 PM
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I think cashing a win ticket that pays over $100 for $2. I have had a couple, but that almost 40 years ago.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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05-23-2010, 07:26 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pace Cap'n
What golf shot (or score) is even more rare than a hole-in-one?
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double eagle
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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05-23-2010, 08:13 PM
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I once, and only once, hit a pick 6 on a cold $2 ticket.
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05-23-2010, 08:23 PM
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I had a cold P6 consolation -- $12.30. I think that's why I seldom play the P6 to this day.
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05-23-2010, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tzipi
I would say singling a winner in all 9 races or singling a pick six ticket. That's my guess.
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Bob Ike went 9-for-9 yesterday at Hollywood. Pretty impressive even if most of them were short prices.
About 25 years ago at CD, I once hit six exactas in a row, all by boxing two horses in each race. The biggest one paid over $200...I'm still waiting for that kind of luck to happen again.
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05-23-2010, 10:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfdinneen
For those who have read my posts over the years, you will be aware that I rely on mathematics and not handicapping skill to turn a profit.
Claiming no fundamental handicapping expertise whatsoever, I can admit that I had the unexpected good fortune to land a 1000/1 winner (maximum price on Betfair) in a maiden race a couple of months ago which I think you will agree qualifies as a spectacular hole-in-one.
Best wishes,
John
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If there is a hole-in-one in Horse Racing, that indeed might be it. Or catching anything, by skill or luck, at say, over 50 or 60 to one. Hey, my retired dentist had 7 holes in one I asked him over 30 years ago, he probaly had many more, don't know if he's still alive or not now.
Sometimes the hole-in-oe in golf come by skill, some by total luck, and more often I'd say both skill and luck. And it doesn't necessarily take great skill, but enough to get one toward the green on the fly on a par-3 and land in the right spot that day.
To me, trying to find a good analogy between a horse racing feat (as well as a bowling feat) vs golf, IMHO takes more than one shot. I tend to think in number of consecutive birdies on par-4 holes. No one handicapping shot will land a Pick-6. And true, you can drive into the rough, iron into the sand, and chip out and in for a birdie just as well as you can drive the middle of the fairway, place a great wedge within 6 feet of the cup, and hole the putt. But in the ideal, a number of truly well played consecutive holes seems like a better way to match up the feat.
Maybe a cold daily double matchs two consecutive birdies. Maybe a cold pick 6 matches six consecutive birdies, or perhaps, since there is only one pick-six a day, maybe that should be holes 14 through 18, or 4 through 9. Horizontal bets where one takes more than one horse have no comparison, since we're not talking consecutive birdies in a best-ball tournament.
That's my pot-luck contribution to this food for thought thread.
Last edited by Steve 'StatMan'; 05-23-2010 at 10:06 PM.
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