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09-26-2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by garyscpa
Attached is the transcript of the decision.
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That thing reads like a 26 year old clerk did 90% of the work on the thing.
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09-26-2013, 09:34 PM
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Just to clarify: this is a really sloppy order. I'm not even talking about the ultimate decision. The analysis is pretty facile, and I don't think the actual judge had a much of a hand in writing it.
There's nothing more aggravating as a litigant or an attorney to spend countless hours and late nights working on a case and have it end with the court giving the thing almost no effort whatsoever.
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09-26-2013, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thew92
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But Texas gladly accepts bets from every other state in the country on their tracks.
Wagers accepted at Texas tracks are sent online to the host
track
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09-26-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thew92
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Texas lawmakers trying to protect Texas tracks...That's all this is....
It's the "Texas Way".
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09-26-2013, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Its amazing to me this "anti gambling"sentiment around the country, NJ cant even get sports betting, they're fighting tooth and nail against this...and yet, people can freely go and purchase alcohol, to my knowledge, alcohol is legal in all 50 states. I dont remember hearing about a person who was killed by a driver who was driving under the influence of a horse or sports bet.
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I can put a finger as to why gambling is illegal or heavily restricted in some states. That's due to the influence that Bible Thumpers have over state politicians. For example, here in NC even though the Cherokees run a very lucrative casino which now has full table games, and the state runs a lottery, the Church people here will not tolerate any more additional wagering or gaming.
Elected officials know this and if they want to continue their political careers, they have to make sure the Church people are kept happy.
As far as horse racing, NC especially the Charlotte area is an untapped market for a racetrack. There are more people from the northeast here than native Southerners. It will never happen. The Church people would lose their minds.
This sports wagering thing is a mystery. Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells knows the willingness and the lengths people will go to get in a bet on a sporting event. And this excuse that if there is wagering on sports in the 46 states where the federal government outlawed it, would result in games being fixed is a bunch of horse( fertilizer)..
What is it? The illegal handle on the Super Bowl is like 10 times the legal handle?..
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09-26-2013, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vince
Are there any options for Texas residents to wager elsewhere online, I have a twinspire account.
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You'd have to check with the other US based ADW's.
My thinking is the Texas law applies to all of them..
And it's no longer as simple as using an address in a state where on line betting is legal.
ADW's check your credit using one of the Credit reporting bureaus. That means the ADW gets your last known address, banking info, and other identifying info that pinpoints your residence. Also I believe ADW's track the IP Addresses of their users to make sure they are not betting from an illegal location.
That second point is speculation on my part.
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09-26-2013, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Texas lawmakers trying to protect Texas tracks...That's all this is....
It's the "Texas Way".
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mark my words texas tracks are going down the drain! hell I rather bet will rogers down? than a texas track. change is a coming!!!! TS SHOULD BAN ALL ONLINE WAGERING ON TEXAS TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-27-2013, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
I can put a finger as to why gambling is illegal or heavily restricted in some states. That's due to the influence that Bible Thumpers have over state politicians. For example, here in NC even though the Cherokees run a very lucrative casino which now has full table games, and the state runs a lottery, the Church people here will not tolerate any more additional wagering or gaming.
Elected officials know this and if they want to continue their political careers, they have to make sure the Church people are kept happy.
As far as horse racing, NC especially the Charlotte area is an untapped market for a racetrack. There are more people from the northeast here than native Southerners. It will never happen. The Church people would lose their minds.
This sports wagering thing is a mystery. Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells knows the willingness and the lengths people will go to get in a bet on a sporting event. And this excuse that if there is wagering on sports in the 46 states where the federal government outlawed it, would result in games being fixed is a bunch of horse( fertilizer)..
What is it? The illegal handle on the Super Bowl is like 10 times the legal handle?..
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I used to think this was true but not anymore. I actually think the politicians are using the "bible thumpers" as a moralistic way to perpetuate a different agenda. I do not believe for one moment that these religious zealots carry any weight at all with these politicians except where it is convenient to put them out in the front lines to absorb the arrows for their own "hidden" causes.
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09-27-2013, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Valento
I used to think this was true but not anymore. I actually think the politicians are using the "bible thumpers" as a moralistic way to perpetuate a different agenda. I do not believe for one moment that these religious zealots carry any weight at all with these politicians except where it is convenient to put them out in the front lines to absorb the arrows for their own "hidden" causes.
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What is your theory as to the agenda of these politicians?
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09-27-2013, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
What is your theory as to the agenda of these politicians?
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A bit fuzzy there. I just think someone is getting their bottom line satisfied and the easiest out for the politicians is to throw the bible people in front of it. No proof of that...just conjecture
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09-27-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
I can put a finger as to why gambling is illegal or heavily restricted in some states. That's due to the influence that Bible Thumpers have over state politicians. For example, here in NC even though the Cherokees run a very lucrative casino which now has full table games, and the state runs a lottery, the Church people here will not tolerate any more additional wagering or gaming.
Elected officials know this and if they want to continue their political careers, they have to make sure the Church people are kept happy.
As far as horse racing, NC especially the Charlotte area is an untapped market for a racetrack. There are more people from the northeast here than native Southerners. It will never happen. The Church people would lose their minds.
This sports wagering thing is a mystery. Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells knows the willingness and the lengths people will go to get in a bet on a sporting event. And this excuse that if there is wagering on sports in the 46 states where the federal government outlawed it, would result in games being fixed is a bunch of horse( fertilizer)..
What is it? The illegal handle on the Super Bowl is like 10 times the legal handle?..
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Good writeup.
The argument that the sports leagues are making against NJ is laughable and its amazing to me how anyone "voted" in favor of the sports leagues. We all know a certain sports league that's completely built on gambling, from top to bottom yet they sit there on their soap box and believe that their league would be just as successful if people werent betting the games or engaging in fantasy sports. Its comical.
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09-27-2013, 03:14 PM
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Day Three of The Hostage Crisis
I can do this.
Instead of listening to Andy Serling and Jason Blewitt all day, Chet Baker and Coltrane are on the noise box; no Maggie Wolfendale, but I got Diana Krall—hey, those aren’t the worst swap-outs in the world. OK, so I got the shakes pretty bad. But that don’t mean I’m down with the gamblin jones. No way, man. It’s all that extra coffee I’ve been drinking…yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s just the coffee.
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09-27-2013, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Good writeup.
The argument that the sports leagues are making against NJ is laughable and its amazing to me how anyone "voted" in favor of the sports leagues. We all know a certain sports league that's completely built on gambling, from top to bottom yet they sit there on their soap box and believe that their league would be just as successful if people werent betting the games or engaging in fantasy sports. Its comical.
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But for the the widespread wagering on football, be it pro or college, the tv ratings would not be anywhere near their current levels.
That's a fact.
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09-27-2013, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Can't disagree there, but...
governing bodies of US sports, both pro and collegiate, would say different.
They need to maintain the purity of their contests.
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open your eyes, clown (from the movie with Rob Zombie). It's all about the $$$. Who lobbied with the most $$, wins. Every time
The tracks wanted this law
The Baptists wanted this law
The tracks wanted this law
The Cathlicks wanted this law
Did i mention the tracks wanted this law enforced?
Money talks...I walk apparently (and no, I'm not moving to some blue state shithole over this)
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09-27-2013, 07:50 PM
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it should be noted that if the TRC (and tracks in TX) thought this law would bring bettors to the tracks in droves to bet in the simo (OUT OF THEIR HOMES), they'll be sorely disappointed. As i type this I'm in Lone Star's simo pavillion. It's no more populated than a normal friday nite. Less so, to be honest
And the QH meet that's going on has about 20 people on the apron
Awesome decision, TRC 
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