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Old 03-15-2019, 08:29 AM   #16
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Doesn’t new zeeland have the most stringent gun laws in the world?
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:10 AM   #17
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Sounds like the shooter was anti Muslim / immigrant - not a white supremacist.
I take the above back, just heard parts of his manifesto where he mentions a new white identity and purpose. He also lists Trump as a symbol of that identity.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:29 AM   #18
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Enlighten me.
In Brazil's larger cities, there is a big problem with homeless children. They loot stores and harass and steal from tourists which is obviously bad for tourism. The police and/or "contractors" take care of the problem at night. There was a "cleanup" project before the Rio olympics but this has been going on for years.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:29 PM   #19
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I went to school in New Zealand for a year at Massey University in 1984. During that time a crazy person shot 21 dead at a California McDonalds. It made the national news there for over a week. At the time they only had 2 television stations, both state run. They had some shows of their own, some from BBC, some from Australia and some from US. Hill Street Blues was a big show then, and many thought America was one big violent city. I got crap from the locals because they only had 3 murders in the entire country the previous year.

It seems now immigration has become an issue there. The shooter was from Australia and the people in the mosques, most likely were not born in New Zealand.


The media is promoting blood and violence. The percentage of films and shows that show guns and shootings is extremely high. Even many video games are based around killing people.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:38 PM   #20
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Okay enough...

This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.

This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.

Call a spade a damn spade.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:46 PM   #21
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We've raised 2 generations of zombies devoid of reason, love, and the things that are great in life.

We have now permeated our absolute worst into other Western civilization cultures.
Mass murderers and serial killers can come from anywhere and always have.
There will always be sociopaths and psychopaths.

The internet shines the light on everything immediately.

Here is a list of New Zealand massacres -- this is not a new phenomena -- all are tragedies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand

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Old 03-15-2019, 01:12 PM   #22
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Okay enough...

This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.

This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.

Call a spade a damn spade.
You should be AOCs 2024 campaign manager.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:19 PM   #23
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Okay enough...

This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.

This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.

Call a spade a damn spade.
what makes it far right? why couldn't it be far left? or just crazy?
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You should be AOCs 2024 campaign manager.
she only likes rich people who can juggle the books, does ET qualify?
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:41 PM   #25
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what makes it far right? why couldn't it be far left? or just crazy?
Because he's a far right reactionary white supremacist.

He isn't blowing up banks and fighting the class war he's fighting the race war.

Those movements have ties to the right side of the political spectrum. Just like people who want to kill the capitalists, bankers, and rich have their ties in leftist politics.

It doesn't matter what political persuasion you are the extremists on your side are bad people.

Call a spade a spade...
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:50 PM   #26
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Because he's a far right reactionary white supremacist.

He isn't blowing up banks and fighting the class war he's fighting the race war.

Those movements have ties to the right side of the political spectrum. Just like people who want to kill the capitalists, bankers, and rich have their ties in leftist politics.

It doesn't matter what political persuasion you are the extremists on your side are bad people.

Call a spade a spade...
but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:26 PM   #27
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but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
Dude has an 87 page manifesto describing everything about himself, his motives, and his affiliations...

But...

He live streamed it and only a leftist would do that...

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Old 03-15-2019, 02:58 PM   #28
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but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
This confirms it, and is all you ever needed
to know about life around here in PA OTG.

smh........
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Dude has an 87 page manifesto describing everything about himself, his motives, and his affiliations...

But...

He live streamed it and only a leftist would do that...

link or just main stream media opinion
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link or just main stream media opinion
I'm not linking any of that dude's bullshit. It's out there. Go find it if you want.

I've read it... obviously you haven't... so please please keep opining.
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