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Old 02-21-2019, 06:16 PM   #46
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Do you have a pipe?

https://skepticalscience.com/global-...-consensus.htm


Expert consensus results on the question of human-caused global warming among the previous studies published by the co-authors of Cook et al. (2016). Illustration: John Cook. Available on the SkS Graphics page

Oh look more charts and graphs..
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:27 PM   #47
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I tracked down the first on at 100% -Oreskes 2004


I was surprised that there was no data collection or research at all, just summarizing stuff from IPCC and a couple other Associations.

http://science.sciencemag.org/conten...5702/1686.full
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:22 AM   #48
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Nothing incoherent in what I wrote. I said you rely on cliffnotes. And their livelihood comes from agreement among themselves. Kinda like how Fake News works... one feeding off the other... and so on.
NASA, Union of Concerned Scientists, and 97% of mainstream climatologists are researching and have agreed that humans have accelerated climate change thru' cliffnotes?

Do you even know what you are saying?

As I said you at best are incoherent
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:51 AM   #49
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I tracked down the first on at 100% -Oreskes 2004


I was surprised that there was no data collection or research at all, just summarizing stuff from IPCC and a couple other Associations.

http://science.sciencemag.org/conten...5702/1686.full.
You are wrong, that is not what your link says. BTW, even if it does, what about the other 6 newer studies that show a higher consensus than Oreskes?
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:56 AM   #50
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I was surprised that there was no data collection or research at all, just summarizing stuff from IPCC and a couple other Associations.
You must be kidding. Do a Goggle search for IPCC data

https://www.google.com/search?client...iz.J5vlUzjnQeg

Climate deniers on PA OT evidently are not thorough
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You are wrong, that is not what your link says. BTW, even if it does, what about the other 6 newer studies that show a higher consensus than Oreskes?
what is higher than your chart posted 100% consensus, something like 110% ?
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what is higher than your chart posted 100% consensus, something like 110% ?
I see you are not serious.
Typical here.
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Buried in all the global warming literature written there must be something that claims some areas are going to be spared this warmup. Because our climate here is no different today than since the sixties.
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Oh look more charts and graphs..
Oh look, no data no charts, no graphs. Only fact-free BS
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:35 PM   #55
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Buried in all the global warming literature written there must be something that claims some areas are going to be spared this warmup. Because our climate here is no different today than since the sixties.
You have obviously acclimated to the 0.12 degree average higher temperature, and did not notice it with the season changes.
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Snow in Las Vegas isn't shocking. I've seen it in the past a couple of times before.
Same with Phoenix. I was in Phoenix in December a number of years ago and they had a dusting of snow. Kind of weird. I'm sure that hasn't happened often, but it happens once in a while in places you wouldn't expect to see it.

Vegas and Phoenix would be characterized as weather events. It wouldn't be considered climate change until it became a more common event, or until average temperatures over a 30 year period changed significantly.
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You have obviously acclimated to the 0.12 degree average higher temperature, and did not notice it with the season changes.
that has to be it. so your saying everything will acclimate like it's always done?
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Scottsdale got snow yesterday. Flagstaff has had something like 140" of snow I think my mom said.
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What's the difference between a couple hundred year's worth of "accurate" weather data vs. thousands and thousands and thousands of years when compiled to come up with climate data?

Probably a pretty freakin' large difference.
As I remember, if you look at weather over a 30 year period, that defines climate. For example, if you live in a Mediterranean Climate, you expect cool, wet winters and hot dry summers. When that changes over the defined period, THAT's an example of climate change.
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that has to be it. so your saying everything will acclimate like it's always done?
I am not a climate scientist, so can not make any accurate predictions. Some species may not make it, like the left loonies.
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