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07-03-2018, 11:04 AM
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Much like Mueller's investigation.
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Tom, as always, fact-Free and diversion full.
How many were indicted in the right's ballyhooed endless Benghazi fiasco?
Mueller’s team has either indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 20 people and three companies — that we know of.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nts-grand-jury
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07-03-2018, 11:09 AM
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#977
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And America sleeps better at night because of it!
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07-03-2018, 01:39 PM
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#978
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Originally Posted by hcap
Tom, as always, fact-Free and diversion full.
How many were indicted in the right's ballyhooed endless Benghazi fiasco?
Mueller’s team has either indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 20 people and three companies — that we know of.
And not one has squat to do with collusion... great job
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nts-grand-jury
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I'm sure when they were investigating Benghazi they keep it to Benghazi... otherwise they surely would of hooked Clinton on the email server taking money from foreign players..
Oh wait I guess not as they were get their info from the same deep state crawlers that are digging for any dirt on Trump and were just as Fanatic about burying Clinton's dirty laundry... I mean she was going to be the next Preznit... Right!
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07-03-2018, 03:27 PM
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I'm sure when they were investigating Benghazi they keep it to Benghazi...
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They wren;'t investigating - FBI and DOJ were in Clinton's camp.
And the press ran interference for them.
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07-03-2018, 04:52 PM
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#980
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
I'm sure when they were investigating Benghazi they keep it to Benghazi... otherwise they surely would of hooked Clinton on the email server taking money from foreign players..
Oh wait I guess not as they were get their info from the same deep state crawlers that are digging for any dirt on Trump and were just as Fanatic about burying Clinton's dirty laundry... I mean she was going to be the next Preznit... Right!
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the guys digging for the dirt are part of the dirty laundry, and now have to divert to protect themselves
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07-03-2018, 05:20 PM
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Senate intel committee concludes Putin personally approved meddling to aid Donald Trump
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/sen...-donald-trump/
A new assessment issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday concurred with previous reports that President Vladimir Putin personally approved Russian meddling in the 2016 election. The Committee also stated that Russia’s influence campaign was designed to help Donald Trump win.
“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S . presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the document reads.
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07-03-2018, 05:31 PM
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We've "supposedly" known this for over 18 months.
What is the news here?
My whole question is, if Russia did 'influence' our election via social media, then they were 'attacking' those who weren't going to vote for Trump.
Thus, if you then voted for Trump, you were a weak-minded Dem/Ind voter.
Russia has tried to influence elections for decades, yet now that the bitch lost, we need to investigate why stupid people change their minds?
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07-03-2018, 05:37 PM
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whats up with Nunes asking all the state department people to testify? did they give the 'evidence' of the DNC 'hacked' emails to the CIA?
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07-03-2018, 05:47 PM
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Forgot to highlight........
REVEALED: Manafort was plotting in 2014 how to help Russia ‘manipulate’ foreign elections through ‘spin’
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/rev...lections-spin/
..Newly uncovered business records reveal that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort began plotting as early as 2014 how Russia could help “spin” foreign political events and elections.
The Associated Press reported on Monday that it had obtained internal memos and other records showing Manafort’s firm had help “formulating pro-Russia political strategy” from Konstantin Kilimnik, who is described as a Russian-born “fixer” and translator.
Both Manafor and Kilimnik have been accused by special counsel Robert Mueller of trying to tamper with witnesses in the Russia investigation.
The AP notes:
"More than a decade before Russia was accused of surreptitiously trying to tilt the presidential election toward Trump, Manafort and Kilimnik pondered the risks to Russia if the country did not hone its efforts to influence global politics, the records show.
“The West is just a little more skillful at playing the modern game, where perception by the world public opinion and the spin is more important than what is actually going on,” Kilimnik wrote to Manafort in a December 2004 memo analyzing Russia’s bungled efforts to manipulate political events in former Soviet states. “Russia is ultimately going to lose if they do not learn how to play this game.”
Kilimnik — who special counsel Robert Mueller believes is currently in Russia and has ties to Russian intelligence — helped formulate Manafort’s pitches to clients in Russia and Ukraine, according to the records. Among Manafort’s clients were Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and other mega-wealthy Russians with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin."
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Has nothing to do with Trump.
This isn't going to end well for you. It will be much like election night 2016. You remember how you felt that night? Get ready to feel it again. Probably two more times, actually. Once after this investigation ends. And the next time on election night 2020.
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07-03-2018, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Senate intel committee concludes Putin personally approved meddling to aid Donald Trump
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/sen...-donald-trump/
A new assessment issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday concurred with previous reports that President Vladimir Putin personally approved Russian meddling in the 2016 election. The Committee also stated that Russia’s influence campaign was designed to help Donald Trump win.
“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S . presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the document reads.
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As Mike Harvey use to say... Now For the Rest of the Story...
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The FBI's and CIA's "analytical disagreement" with the NSA over whether Russia sought to bolster the Trump presidential campaign was "reasonable," the report also said.
While the FBI and CIA had "high confidence" that Russian President Vladimir Putin aspired to help Trump's election chances by denigrating opponent Hillary Clinton, the NSA had only "moderate confidence" in that assessment, according to the January 2017 analysis.
The disagreement among agencies "was reasonable, transparent, and openly debated among the agencies and analysts, with analysts, managers and agency heads on both sides of the confidence level articulately justifying their positions," the Senate intelligence committee's findings said.
House panel have cited "significant intelligence tradecraft failings" in the intelligence community's findings, saying it is inappropriate to conclude that Russia acted specifically to assist Trump.
“The bottom line: The Russians did commit active measures against our election in 2016, and we think they will do that in the future,” Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, said in March. “We disagree with the narrative that they were trying to help Trump.”
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Does not quite say what you've cherry picked... more like same as it ever was and will be next time.
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07-03-2018, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Senate intel committee concludes Putin personally approved meddling to aid Donald Trump
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/sen...-donald-trump/
A new assessment issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday concurred with previous reports that President Vladimir Putin personally approved Russian meddling in the 2016 election. The Committee also stated that Russia’s influence campaign was designed to help Donald Trump win.
“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S . presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the document reads.
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Did they chime in on how the DNC rigged the primary to screw Bernie of a chance?
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07-03-2018, 07:06 PM
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#987
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Actually I am updating the road to Trump's removal. So far on schedule, and at a quicker pace than Watergate.
It is only a matter of time
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He won't run in 2020, so you're way behind schedule. President Pence will be at the controls by then.
Face it, you need to buy Vaseline at Sams for awhile.... A couple of jars over the next six or more years won't cut it for you.
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07-03-2018, 09:04 PM
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#988
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
He won't run in 2020, so you're way behind schedule. President Pence will be at the controls by then.
Face it, you need to buy Vaseline at Sams for awhile.... A couple of jars over the next six or more years won't cut it for you.
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I feel Pence could lose to a plethora of potential GOP primary challengers.
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07-03-2018, 09:04 PM
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REVEALED: Manafort was plotting in 2014 how to help Russia ‘manipulate’ foreign elections through ‘spin’
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I did not know that he worked for CNN!
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07-03-2018, 09:21 PM
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Russia did a piss poor job then, Hillary got the most votes
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