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Old 05-04-2013, 04:35 AM   #1
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What would it take to DQ a derby winner?!?!?

Had a discussion at work tonite about the derby and somebody brought up a scenario of a horse getting taken down....

What infraction would result in a dq cuz it would be terrible for racing...would a horse crossing over in the stretch first time time around...

Jockey hitting another horse by accident with whip?

I'm assuming the last thing stewards would want is to get involved with is making a call involving a dq

What do u guys think it would take::::they say real quiet would have been taken down had he not lost that photo....
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:38 AM   #2
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I cant imagine RQ would have been DQd...its easier to say after the fact, but could you imagine people thinking they saw a TC winner and then they didnt?

With 100k people in attendance, most of the drunk, you gonna DQ the triple crown winner and actually risk a riot?

Im thinking no.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:45 AM   #3
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Pioneer of the Nile bumping Musket Man. Probably should have come down.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:46 AM   #4
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I cant imagine RQ would have been DQd...its easier to say after the fact, but could you imagine people thinking they saw a TC winner and then they didnt?

With 100k people in attendance, most of the drunk, you gonna DQ the triple crown winner and actually risk a riot?

Im thinking no.
Your right it is easy to say once it's over....I'm with you don't think he would have come down...on a side note everytime I see then 2 hit the wire I still don't think he got there in time
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:48 AM   #5
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Pioneer of the Nile bumping Musket Man. Probably should have come down.
I remember that....imagine if mine that bird didn't explode late and musket man POTN and somebody else banging the whole lane they may have had to dq there....but I really think the judges would come up with every story in book to not dq a horse in the derby especially for win
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:37 AM   #6
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Real Quiet would have come down. It would have been a huge positive moment for the sport: in front of a world convinced that horse racing is at least semi-corrupt, and in which horse racing seemingly had everything to gain by leaving RQ up, the stewards take RQ down because (as everyone saw in the head-on shot) it was the right thing to do.

No way to prove it, but had that actually occurred, I think the game would be marginally more popular today.
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At what point in the Belmont did Real Quiet interfere with someone? I don't remember seeing him bump anyone.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:19 AM   #8
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At what point in the Belmont did Real Quiet interfere with someone? I don't remember seeing him bump anyone.
Never mind... just read some of the articles from '98. I didn't remember him brushing Victory Gallop down the stretch.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:30 AM   #9
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At what point in the Belmont did Real Quiet interfere with someone? I don't remember seeing him bump anyone.
He interfered with my trifecta!
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At what point in the Belmont did Real Quiet interfere with someone? I don't remember seeing him bump anyone.
I'd like to know at what point did victory gallop go past real quiet....seen the photo and the finish 700 times in my life and I still don't think he went by
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Especially if the second place horse is owned by bluebloods and the winner isn't.
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:27 PM   #13
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I'd like to know at what point did victory gallop go past real quiet....seen the photo and the finish 700 times in my life and I still don't think he went by
Huh? If you've seen the photo 700 times, what is the mystery?

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Huh? If you've seen the photo 700 times, what is the mystery?

Everytime I watch the race live i just don't see VG getting nose down first....to this day baffert doesn't see it either
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Everytime I watch the race live i just don't see VG getting nose down first....to this day baffert doesn't see it either
"I'm glad the stewards didn't have to make a decision," said Bob Baffert, trainer of Real Quiet, who thought he knew what the decision would have been.

Baffert said he told dejected jockey Kent Desormeaux, "It would have been worse if you had won and your number had been taken down."
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