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01-17-2017, 07:52 PM
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longshot kick de bucket
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: niagara falls ont.
Posts: 1,218
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i was bad in the first half but very good from labour day on to almost get even.
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01-17-2017, 09:21 PM
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Grinding at a Poker Table
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,902
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Good News --> Year 2016 was profitable.
Bad News --> Previous few years were not.
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01-18-2017, 02:31 PM
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BC Canada
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Track Collector
Good News --> Year 2016 was profitable.
Bad News --> Previous few years were not.
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Congrats! Did Prineville put you over the top?
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01-18-2017, 07:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Seattle
Posts: 3,943
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At the time of this post, we have 26 winners in 2016. What would be considered a "significant" winning year? $12,000 profit? $60,000 profit? Any profit?
I like my wins to make a difference. Let's say betting $500 in a month and getting back $550 is a lot better than a kick to the jimmies, but is it really just "fun" rather than "winning". It is to me anyway. Are there winners in 2016 that consider that a solid, or significant, profit?
Kind of back to defining winning. The difference between winning and making a little money while having fun. BTW, I'm not knocking it. It's just not the reason I have worked at being a handicapper all these years and certainly isn't in the parameters of my goals as a handicapper.
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01-18-2017, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 1,028
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ultracapper
At the time of this post, we have 26 winners in 2016. What would be considered a "significant" winning year? $12,000 profit? $60,000 profit? Any profit?
I like my wins to make a difference. Let's say betting $500 in a month and getting back $550 is a lot better than a kick to the jimmies, but is it really just "fun" rather than "winning". It is to me anyway. Are there winners in 2016 that consider that a solid, or significant, profit?
Kind of back to defining winning. The difference between winning and making a little money while having fun. BTW, I'm not knocking it. It's just not the reason I have worked at being a handicapper all these years and certainly isn't in the parameters of my goals as a handicapper.
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Winning, to me, is ending up in the green. Doesn't matter by how much.
As for a "significant" winning year, that's entirely dependent on the player, how much they bet, and the size of their bankroll. If you bet a million bucks, and made 10K, that's probably not significant at a 1.01 roi. If you bet 100K and made 10K, that's probably significant at a 1.10 roi. I think profit as a percentage of bankroll is the best indicator of significance as opposed to handle though.
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01-18-2017, 10:04 PM
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Grinding at a Poker Table
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,902
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuggingTheRail
Congrats! Did Prineville put you over the top?
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No, but it did make up about 20% of my year's total profit. Year 2016 was my best ever there with 4 out of 4 winning days. (That probably means year 2017 will be 4 out of 4 losing days, or at best 1 for 4 with a net loss.).
Still trying to get you there some year, and the sooner the better!!
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01-19-2017, 05:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sierra Madre, California
Posts: 4,419
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I've been homebound for the most part...due to illness.
I only play Santa Anita and Del Mar TURF COURSE ONLY
I bet on express bet or at Santa Anita.
I bet to win only...mostly the better class races on turf.
I made a small profit for the year.
So far at Santa Anita we have had a lot of needed rain...so not many opportunities for plays. I'll wait.
I hope to be attending Santa Anita more often.
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01-20-2017, 12:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posts: 1,622
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I hope you recover soon Diane. I still like the cheaper races, those high class turf races are way above my pay grade.
Best of luck in 2017.
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01-21-2017, 03:22 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 11,474
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I lost about $1,800 or so after crunching numbers.
Off to a horrid start in January to boot.
Trying to change some things up. New patterns. New thoughts. Ever evolving game.
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01-22-2017, 06:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,757
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
I lost about $1,800 or so after crunching numbers.
Off to a horrid start in January to boot.
Trying to change some things up. New patterns. New thoughts. Ever evolving game.
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i hear you loud and clear since i am right there with you. your prescription would be to follow CHRISLONGSHOT. i am pretty sure he actually wins playing 2-3 horses per race. no clue in the world how he does it though
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01-22-2017, 09:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Michigan
Posts: 72
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Started following the Kentucky Derby prep races last year, that learning curve and my racing luck wasn't as good caused me to lose more than last year.
Ended the year on a positive note winning some money in the Breeders Cup, haven't been back since.
Need to tighten up betting and race selection and focus more on ROI than cashing tickets, that's the plan at least.
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01-22-2017, 09:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 838
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I made 63 (2 horse) win bets for the year hitting 31.75% of them. Wagered a total of $1,183.00 and got back $1,784.50 for a $601.50 profit.
If I had to pay for data (I don't) I would have had a losing year.
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01-22-2017, 07:40 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Goldfield,NV
Posts: 321
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thanks to Creator's Belmont I did !
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01-22-2017, 09:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 189
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losing year - worst ever
I had very bad numbers this year. I am vigilant to improve this year so my record keeping is somewhat over the top. I realize that this is a very tough beat the takeout game but I love it. I have one basic issue: how can you bet a race for example, with Jorge Navarro in it, or Jamie Ness in it?
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