The coronavirus

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Proves Dr. Atlas's point to a "T"

Meaning what?

[Valuist]

Originally Posted by hcap

Out of where in Stanford. The Hoover institute?

https://www.pe.com/2020/05/12/corona...we-knew-about/

[davew]

Originally Posted by hcap

Conflicting results

Stanford study: More than 48K Santa Clara County residents have likely been infected by coronavirus
Survey of blood samples suggests between 2.49% and 4.16% of county residents may have coronavirus antibodies

At this point no one knows what the true numbers are, nor even if the antibodies provide lasting protection, compounding the unknown value of what herd immunity threshold for the novel corrolla virus should be

In other infectious diseases it varies quite a bit, but estimates of 70% indicate deaths in the many millions. We do not know the mortality rate exactly.But so far we can make an educate ed guess

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?...=US&ceid=US:en

U.S Confirmed cases 1,500,148
Deaths 89,498
89,498 divided by 1,500,148 Or 5.97%

Times say 60% and not 70% of 330 million, or 11,812,570 people at risk of dying experimenting witth herd immunity

I like your numbers ….

100% of the 330 million are at risk of dying

and over 99% will be dead sometime in the next 90 years

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by hcap

Speaking of herd immunity

No place on Earth is anywhere close to herd immunity for the coronavirus
https://www.businessinsider.com/nowh...navirus-2020-5

As more coronavirus antibody tests roll out across the globe, it's becoming increasingly clear that no place is anywhere near the distant, bright horizon of "herd immunity."

Populations achieve that benchmark when enough people become infected and recover — thereby developing pathogen-fighting antibodies — to prevent the virus from spreading. For COVID-19, experts estimate the threshold for herd immunity may be as high as 70% of the population.

So far, the first wave of infections has left more than 300,000 people dead worldwide and devastated the global economy. But even the hardest-hit countries are finding that scarcely 10% of their populations have walked away with antibodies. Tens of thousands are dead, but only 5% of the population may be immune. In the US, where nearly 85,000 people have died, the prospects for mass immunity are no better. In April, a study in Santa Clara County, California, estimated that between 2.5% and 4.2% of residents there had antibodies. A study of Los Angeles County made a similar estimate: 2.8% to 5.6% "seroprevalence" (the term for the percentage of people who have antibodies in their blood).

That doesn't bode well for other parts of the US, which haven't yet faced devastating waves of infections like the one that killed more than 27,500 people in New York.

Hcap's recipe for people.....lockdown until 2050.

What is your point?

[PaceAdvantage]

hcap is free to lock himself down for the rest of his days...

I've been saying for years that this world has become a paradise for shut ins...now with COVID-19, it's nirvana.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

An M.D without any infectious disease chops or epepidemiology specialty. He is however part of the conservative Hoover institute and a right wing health policy wonk.

Why can't there be any qualified exerts on the right with the correct credentials who criticize main stream non-partisan experts in the field?

Why must all your semi-experts get their facts so wrong? He confuses herd immunity with vaccines. And to make it worse, interviewed by loonie Jesse Watters.

You are such a groupie for the MAN!

1969 called - they are disavowing you.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

I like your numbers ….

100% of the 330 million are at risk of dying

and over 99% will be dead sometime in the next 90 years

Clean your glasses.

11,812,570 people are a far cry from 330,000,000.
We will not know how many people are or have been infected for quite a while.
However using confirmed deaths divided by confirmed cases gives an educated guess as far as herd immunity is considered. Percentages for US deaths and worldwide deaths, are roughly equal

6.72% and 6.00%.

Even if 1/4 of that percentage is accurate, in the US almost 3 million are at risk of dying.

[davew]

FDA and CDC are control freaks and are slowing knowledge and recovery through their ineptitude

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-halts...155446785.html

[PaceAdvantage]

I hope Bill can come up with a self-inoculation and self-microchipping home gift set...just in time for the holiday season.

Should be a bestseller.

[ReplayRandall]

Twitter

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1262135910537277440

Been saying this since day 1, people will decide their own risk levels and lockdowns.

You cant control 330 million people when the tide turns against you, unless your willing to use force and while we are creeping towards China we aint their yet.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

FDA and CDC are control freaks and are slowing knowledge and recovery through their ineptitude

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-halts...155446785.html

From that......

The delay is the latest evidence of how a splintered national effort to develop, distribute and ramp up testing has left federal regulators struggling to keep up.

Sounds like the inept driver of the ship of state is asleep at the wheel.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I hope Bill can come up with a self-inoculation and self-microchipping home gift set...just in time for the holiday season.

Should be a bestseller.

I have stayed away from this loonie tune conspiracy theory. Just checking. Are you referring to this...

YERS, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has committed millions of dollars to research treatments and vaccines for COVID-19 as the pandemic continues to spread across the globe.

IN ORDER TO:

Bill Gates — along with a coalition dubbed "ID 2020" — seeks to "microchip" the world population using a COVID-19 vaccine.
FALSE

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/

[hcap]

This absurd conspiracy is remarkably similar to those of years ago. Hasn't boxcar brought it up yet?....

There are no reputable biblical scholar or theologian who would endorse that the COVID-19 quarantine or a vaccine is related to the “mark of the beast”.

Or 666

In 1989, Nancy and Ronald Reagan, when moving to their home in the Bel-Air section of Los Angeles after the 1988 election, had its address—666 St. Cloud Road—changed to 668 St. Cloud Road.

In 2003, U.S. Route 666 in New Mexico was changed to U.S. Route 491. A New Mexico spokesperson stated, "The devil's out of here, and we say goodbye and good riddance."

Some women expressed concern about giving birth on 6 June 2006 (6/6/06)

Mow it is Bill Gates and micro chipping

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by hcap

From that......

The delay is the latest evidence of how a splintered national effort to develop, distribute and ramp up testing has left federal regulators struggling to keep up.

Sounds like the inept driver of the ship of state is asleep at the wheel.

The difference is in POV Harry. You see the ship as wayward and the captain as drunk because he isn't steering toward your preferred land mass. However, there are many others that prefer a different land mass and he is expertly steering the ship there. So this is all a matter of perspective.

A version of Einstein's Special Relativity!