Hillary Clinton

[delayjf]

She belonged to the California "Communist Party" when she was in college, and I am sad to say that not much has changed about her, since...

I hope they pound that home during the election, and any vintage footage that may go along with her Communist ties and her association with other liberal wackos like Bill Ayers.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by reckless

I did, in college when I was a freshman.

A lot of it exists in a vacuum as kind of a "how to" book. The man, however, was fairly pragmatic. I like reading Alinsky as a reference point for power struggle and he is very good at articulating it. I feel conservatives give him a very bum rap without much thought. Wish more people would actually read it instead of pointing fingers at those that do.

Machiavelli is appreciated despite the disturbing nature of his ideas. Alinsky is much less disturbing and significantly more reviled.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by delayjf

I hope they pound that home during the election, and any vintage footage that may go along with her Communist ties and her association with other liberal wackos like Bill Ayers.

I'd be surprised if there's anything new. OBAMA would have used it, if it's out there. Maybe something has been discovered recently, who knows?

[reckless]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

A lot of it exists in a vacuum as kind of a "how to" book. The man, however, was fairly pragmatic. I like reading Alinsky as a reference point for power struggle and he is very good at articulating it. I feel conservatives give him a very bum rap without much thought. Wish more people would actually read it instead of pointing fingers at those that do. Machiavelli is appreciated despite the disturbing nature of his ideas. Alinsky is much less disturbing and significantly more reviled.

I can't speak for all conservatives but the conservatives I know and talk politics with have read him and we are not giving him a bum rap!

I agree with you with the 'wish' more people should read Saul Alinsky -- it's the best way to defeat the enemy, and Obama, the Clintons, Sanders and the out-of-the-mainstream left wing Democrats and Republicans are the enemy.

[delayjf]

I'd be surprised if there's anything new. OBAMA would have used it, if it's out there. Maybe something has been discovered recently, who knows?

For what its worth, it was news to me. So I'm keeping my fingers cross, hoping more is discovered.

[Tor Ekman]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I'd be surprised if there's anything new. OBAMA would have used it, if it's out there. Maybe something has been discovered recently, who knows?

I think Obama and the Clintons each had the goods on the other so that a "mutually assured destruction" pact was in place and neither pushed the button

[davew]

the Clinton camp have New York Times change the headline and story content because they did not like it

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...176.html?ml=po

[rastajenk]

I think the long story is thus: There is no love between the Clintons and the Obamas; Hillary will have to run against his positions of some of the issues to claim the unofficial position of Leader of the Party. The only one who can run on defending the entire Obama Legacy is Biden. So the Obamas will allow enough investigatory pressure from Justice to derail the Clinton candidacy to set it up for a late Biden run to preserve the "progress" of the Obama Administration. There is absolutely no reason to believe they wouldn't.

Members of the media could be facing a tough Pete Seeger question in a few months: Which side are you on, son, which side are you on?

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

preserve the "progress" of the Obama Administration. There

Does the "progress of the Obama Administration." fall into the OXYMORON catergory?

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

So the Obamas will allow enough investigatory pressure from Justice to derail the Clinton candidacy to set it up for a late Biden run to preserve the "progress" of the Obama Administration. There is absolutely no reason to believe they wouldn't.

Just talk. Outgoing administrations don't do this stuff. Not even to opposing party candidates. Not out of any sense of responsibility or fairness but because of what the next administration might expose. The President's club plays by different rules. Any official investigation of Clinton will go nowhere.

[rastajenk]

I don't think the Obamas respect any rules or precedents. They came from Chicago, why would they?

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

I don't think the Obamas respect any rules or precedents. They came from Chicago, why would they?

Because they expect the same of the next president.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

I don't think the Obamas respect any rules or precedents. They came from KENYA, why would they?

FTFY.

The Kenyan Krime Kabal.

[Robert Goren]

Whether Hillary is the next president will not be decided by what she does or by what she did or didn't do in the past. Her fate will be decided by who her republican opponent is and the how his campaign unfolds. With all the foolishness going on in the GOP right now, her chances of becoming president are pretty good and increasing every day. The tide could turn, but it will not be turned by her, but rather, if it is turned, it will be done by the republicans.

[Tom]

As long a people are willing to literally let her get away with murder and treason, she can win. She should be rotting in prison. Far too many Americans are blithering, lazy idiots. The obvious BS they accept is amazing.