Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Discussion > General Handicapping Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 11-05-2015, 11:49 PM   #1
horseplayer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 344
PARS

Would appreciate opinions on these Pars ( what do you like and why etc.)

Cynthia publishing, Horse street Pars . Brisnet pars .

Thanx for you time to this - Bob
horseplayer is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-06-2015, 03:51 AM   #2
NorCalGreg
Authorized Advertiser
 
NorCalGreg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,603
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseplayer
Would appreciate opinions on these Pars ( what do you like and why etc.)

Cynthia publishing, Horse street Pars . Brisnet pars .

Thanx for you time to this - Bob
I just noticed you didn't get any response at all, horseplayer. The only pars I use are the Bris variety--one thing I have noticed, especially at the lower class levels--some if not all, don't come close to the pars. The E-1 E-2 LATE & SR PARS are just a mirage...and if one horse has exceeded those in his last race--BET IT! right? ....Well that's the 3-5 shot we need to try to beat The one thing I have a good idea about, horseplayer, is....when no entrant can come close to pars---time to look closely at the longshots. Good luck
-NCG
NorCalGreg is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-06-2015, 08:35 AM   #3
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 105,524
HorseStreet - you get a lot more than just pars.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-06-2015, 01:43 PM   #4
ldiatone
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: west view, pa. now Lancaster, Ca.
Posts: 3,376
i use cynthia pub
__________________
Buy Sam a drink and get His dog one Too--->mlang

and now in Lancaster, CA.
ldiatone is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-07-2015, 09:58 AM   #5
JohnGalt1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,168
I use Cynthia.

One tip for everyone who purchases par books, you must make adjustments during the year.

It's easy to take the 1:37.0 from track A 10k 2014 mile races and use it religiously throughout 2015, Sometimes tracks change. Maybe a new track super, or some other reason.

I have made adjustments to about two dozen surfaces this year.

One way to know if I'm accurate when comparing track A to track B, 0r C, is to verify with the DRF speed rating/ track variant when I change a rating.

If rating the horses from track A from a 1:37 par and the horses are running faster at track B, when they should be equal, I may adjust it to 1:36.2, or lower.

Then I verify if both horses have about equal DRF speed ratings/variants.

An example is I lowered Arlington Park's turf mile 3 ticks to equal Hawthorne's and Canterbury's main turf track, because I was finding AP shippers were being rated too slow when shipping and then running faster than my ratings. So now a 1:37 at CBY, AP, and Haw is equal in my ratings and in DRF ratings.

I hope this makes some sense.
JohnGalt1 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-07-2015, 10:08 AM   #6
pandy
Registered User
 
pandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
Posts: 7,215
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseplayer
Would appreciate opinions on these Pars ( what do you like and why etc.)

Cynthia publishing, Horse street Pars . Brisnet pars .

Thanx for you time to this - Bob
I use Horse St Pars to create my speed tables for the Diamond System and I used them when I did my own speed figures years ago.
pandy is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-07-2015, 10:32 PM   #7
KPMats10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 47
Horsestreet far superior.
KPMats10 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-07-2015, 10:44 PM   #8
NorCalGreg
Authorized Advertiser
 
NorCalGreg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,603
Quote:
Originally Posted by KPMats10
Horsestreet far superior.
Is Horsestreet Reno Dave's program?
NorCalGreg is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 11-08-2015, 12:52 AM   #9
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 105,524
Yes.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply




Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wagering Pool with best chance to find an overlay.
Win - 36.36%
20 Votes
Place - 3.64%
2 Votes
Show - 9.09%
5 Votes
Exacta - 30.91%
17 Votes
Trifecta - 7.27%
4 Votes
Superfexta - 1.82%
1 Vote
Pick(x) - 10.91%
6 Votes
Hi 5 Pentafecta - 0%
0 Votes
Total Votes: 55
This poll is closed.
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2021 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.