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08-31-2013, 02:29 PM
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Guillot files ... claims buzzer used on WTC in Travers
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08-31-2013, 02:37 PM
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Just another Facist
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this is going to be fun.........
watch the rider after the race.......on the gallop out............
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08-31-2013, 02:46 PM
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I didn't see him try to dump anything in the gallop out.
Looked at it many times and I say Saez had nothing in his hands but reins and a whip.
You can see him switch hands with the whip as they straighten out.
Then after the race he switches hands again when he's untying the knot in the reins.
He's either got some of the quickest magician hands ever or....he is completely and totally innocent.
"The silliness never ends"
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08-31-2013, 02:50 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
I didn't see him try to dump anything in the gallop out.
Looked at it many times and I say Saez had nothing in his hands but reins and a whip.
You can see him switch hands with the whip as they straighten out.
Then after the race he switches hands again when he's untying the knot in the reins.
He's either got some of the quickest magician hands ever or....he is completely and totally innocent.
"The silliness never ends"
-TLG
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yeah, that's the way I see it, until he looks like he is reaching under the saddle........like I said........going to be fun......... 
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08-31-2013, 02:53 PM
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This one, of course, was a joke. I just cannot believe anyone is so stupid as to try something like this in a race of this magnitude.
Santos didn't. I doubt this young man will have done so either.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...tos-hand_x.htm
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08-31-2013, 02:54 PM
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Nothing to see here...sour grapes from a loser. Move on.
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08-31-2013, 03:16 PM
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I can't take serious a guy that plays with Voodoo Dolls .
The doll is a guy from “Twilight” with slicked back hair in a Teflon suit and tie, except Guillot has placed pins in the doll’s head. Guillot also has a voodoo doll for Pletcher’s starter, Palace Malice, and is looking to make one for Pletcher’s other Travers starter, Verrazano.
By Jerry Bossert / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz2dZl8OKZf
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08-31-2013, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nijinski
I can't take serious a guy that plays with Voodoo Dolls .
The doll is a guy from “Twilight” with slicked back hair in a Teflon suit and tie, except Guillot has placed pins in the doll’s head. Guillot also has a voodoo doll for Pletcher’s starter, Palace Malice, and is looking to make one for Pletcher’s other Travers starter, Verrazano.
By Jerry Bossert / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz2dZl8OKZf |
Hmmm...Verrazano ran inexplicably bad and Palace Malice had a nightmare trip. Maybe there is something to this voodoo stuff.
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08-31-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Grits
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What does Santos situation have to do with this Saez guilt or innocence?
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08-31-2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
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looked to me there was something in his right hand when he switched the stick over to his right hand. he looked down at his hand when he stuck the whip in there. then when you get a side view, he grabs the reigns and it is a little ackward when he has the reins and the stick and whatever else it was. so he appears to stick whatever else there was under the pomel of the saddle. hmmm this will get interesting.
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08-31-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Headbanger
Nothing to see here...sour grapes from a loser. Move on.
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Why not let the process play itself out before posting something like this? I know that the idea that this might be a black eye for the sport you love hurts, but sweeping it under the rug isnt going to make racing better, its just going to make it less transparent...which neither of us wants.
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08-31-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
looked to me there was something in his right hand when he switched the stick over to his right hand. he looked down at his hand when he stuck the whip in there. then when you get a side view, he grabs the reigns and it is a little ackward when he has the reins and the stick and whatever else it was. so he appears to stick whatever else there was under the pomel of the saddle. hmmm this will get interesting.
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At about 6:48 he moves his right hand off the reign and the right hand is clenched in a fist. I'm not sure why his hand would be clenched at that moment. If the horse veered or spooked, he would have less time to grab back onto the reigns with a closed hand.
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08-31-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Why not let the process play itself out before posting something like this? I know that the idea that this might be a black eye for the sport you love hurts, but sweeping it under the rug isnt going to make racing better, its just going to make it less transparent...which neither of us wants.
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You're telling someone else "why not let it play out?"
Yet, here you are with your repeated post trying to build a case as though you're a prosecuting attorney?
Right. Fine advice.... roll on..... 
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08-31-2013, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Hmmm...Verrazano ran inexplicably bad and Palace Malice had a nightmare trip. Maybe there is something to this voodoo stuff.
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You may as well throw out all the stats next time he shows up
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