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Old 12-02-2021, 11:35 PM   #31
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was clearly ahead in my opinion both live and frame-by-frame replay. Frame before and frame after on youtube both show the

My guess is the stewards chose dead heat because it was close enough to be contentious if they gave it to the .


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Old 12-02-2021, 11:41 PM   #32
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I know how the CHRB came to do what it did, because I had the same reaction the stewards did watching it live. And the result was correct under the rules (though the rules should be changed on the issue of horizontal wagers- it should be an ALL race when that happens).

But on the issue of their explanations, yes, the CHRB performed very poorly. Basically the farther away you get from regular procedure, the more explanation that is owed the public. People are betting on these races, and are entitled to that.
You know how they came to do what they did? That's laughable. They lied and then changed their story when they realized people were not accepting their lies.

As cor the topic at hand...its an inexcusable mistake and hopefully one that will be corrected going forward.
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Old 12-02-2021, 11:42 PM   #33
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The shenanigans is the very low level of customer appreciation these knuckleheads show. They can't time race, now they can't post photos.
I call it incompetence.

Thank GOD OP and TAM are running now.
Not sure I'd point out Tampa and Oaklawn as competent tracks.
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Old 12-02-2021, 11:45 PM   #34
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Not sure I'd point out Tampa and Oaklawn as competent tracks.
You would be dead wrong to think they're not....
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You would be dead wrong to think they're not....
What is competent about them?

Oaklawn has allowed cheaters to do whatever they want for years.

Tampa is just as bad.
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What is competent about them?

Oaklawn has allowed cheaters to do whatever they want for years.

Tampa is just as bad.
Hmmm, let's be up front first, what was your previous screen name?

What tracks are catching cheaters? I would think all tracks don't want cheaters but don't have the capability and resources to catch them. How are Oaklawn and Tampa different than others?

There are a lot of sports in the same boat, by the way.
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Hmmm, let's be up front first, what was your previous screen name?

What tracks are catching cheaters? I would think all tracks don't want cheaters but don't have the capability and resources to catch them. How are Oaklawn and Tampa different than others?

There are a lot of sports in the same boat, by the way.
So they are just as bad as everyone else?

Like I said, not sure I'd point them out as competent.
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So they are just as bad as everyone else?

Like I said, not sure I'd point them out as competent.
I don't know how to catch them. It took the FBI to get a few of the bigger ones, no? I don't know a ton about Tampa, but Oaklawn does a lot of things right.
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I don't know how to catch them. It took the FBI to get a few of the bigger ones, no? I don't know a ton about Tampa, but Oaklawn does a lot of things right.
Like?

Allowing Baffert, Diodoro,etc,etc to do as they please is a bad look.
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Not sure I'd point out Tampa and Oaklawn as competent tracks.
head and shoulders above Aqudrab.
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head and shoulders above Aqudrab.
The meaning of "competent" is lost to this retread....
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head and shoulders above Aqudrab.
In what ways? What do you like about Oaklawn and Tampa?
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The meaning of "competent" is lost to this retread....
What is it about Oaklawn that you find competent?

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What is it about Oak awn that you find competent?
It is well regarded by bettors, to the community and is satisfactory in its racing product and facilities.....Competent.
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It is well regarded by bettors, to the community and is satisfactory in its racing product and facilities.....Competent.
If its so well regarded by bettors wouldn't their handle be better?

I guess satisfactory in its racing product is an endorsement.

By your criteria wouldn't all of the NYRA tracks be competent?
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