New Kenosha Riots

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by TJDave

“Those outraged by the verdict marched and chanted 'no justice, no peace' but Kenosha remains quiet Friday.”

Too ***kin’ cold.

Thank God for climate change!

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by TJDave

“Those outraged by the verdict marched and chanted 'no justice, no peace' but Kenosha remains quiet Friday.”

Too ***kin’ cold.

Temperature has zip to do with it... people have had it... maybe they the got the message... inflicting bodily injury maybe detrimental to one's own health.

Or maybe they believe Wisconsin is now White Supremacy Central as reported by the leftist loonies... from the Democratic KKK Judge to the nazi skinhead infested jury. All to preserve the white way of live... racist one and all. Hell every policeperson in now a Kyle... regardless of color. According to the looney leftist.

And the feckless one does nothing to heal the divide... let's go Brandon.

[thaskalos]

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

Correct! Freedom to defend oneself. Great country.

[davew]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

isn't it a hunting rifle for shooting deer and wild turkey? they have quite a few of those in Wisconsin.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Correct! Freedom to defend oneself. Great country.

And is actually very well founded, it is not like there are protections for those who are committing crimes.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

No....THIS IS FREEDOM:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-...combat-charges

But you never posted about this...and it was in your home town?

Maybe I missed it. Or maybe you approve?

The shootout took place in the Austin community of Chicago Friday morning, and was reportedly sparked by an internal dispute between two factions of the Four Corner Hustlers gang, the Chicago Sun Times reported, citing an internal police report and a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

Five men were taken into custody over the shootout, which required a SWAT team response and led to police finding more than 70 shell casings. One shooter was left dead and two of the suspects wounded.

The police source told the outlet that law enforcement sought murder and aggravated battery charges for all five suspects.

By Sunday morning, however, they were released without charges.

"Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection," a police report reviewed by the Chicago Sun Times said of the state attorney’s office’s decision. The report also noted that the suspects weren’t cooperating with investigators.

This is the stuff of insanity. But Kyle is the problem...according to you...

[myohmyjustify]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

No....THIS IS FREEDOM:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-...combat-charges

But you never posted about this...and it was in your home town?

Maybe I missed it. Or maybe you approve?

This is the stuff of insanity. But Kyle is the problem...according to you...

And also to those other idiots on social media and in liberal corporate media who were all-in defending a 5-time convicted child rapist and two serial criminals.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

If that is what your opinion of what happened is.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

No....THIS IS FREEDOM:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-...combat-charges

But you never posted about this...and it was in your home town?

Maybe I missed it. Or maybe you approve?

This is the stuff of insanity. But Kyle is the problem...according to you...

Kyle is the problem and you’re the problem with your idiotic beliefs.

The prosecutor’s decision is perfectly logical and has little to do with mutual combat. As usual you ignore an important part of the story-two important parts in fact.

Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection," a police report reviewed by the Chicago Sun Times said of the state attorney’s office’s decision. The report also noted that the suspects weren’t cooperating with investigators.

The second sentence is the important one there. “Suspects weren’t cooperating with investigators.”
Also.
The Cook County state’s attorney’s office, however, issued a statement that painted a different picture on why the charges were dropped.

Prosecutors had "determined that the evidence was insufficient to meet our burden of proof to approve felony charges," Cristina Villareal, a spokeswoman for the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, said, adding that police agreed with the decision.

Despite what the police claim, the primary reason for not charging the suspects was lack of evidence, not mutual combat. Lack of cooperation from the combatants and other witnesses is crucial in the decision.

The police should have nothing to say about whether charges are filed or not. There’s a reason those powers are kept separated. Allowing the cops to make those decisions is how they do it in dictatorships.

ETA: so no one misunderstands, I wish they could charge all of those involved. But, when they get to court, the prosecutors will have to play according to the Constitution and the evidence.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Kyle is the problem and you’re the problem with your idiotic beliefs.

The prosecutor’s decision is perfectly logical and has little to do with mutual combat. As usual you ignore an important part of the story-two important parts in fact.

Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection," a police report reviewed by the Chicago Sun Times said of the state attorney’s office’s decision. The report also noted that the suspects weren’t cooperating with investigators.

The second sentence is the important one there. “Suspects weren’t cooperating with investigators.”
Also.
The Cook County state’s attorney’s office, however, issued a statement that painted a different picture on why the charges were dropped.

Prosecutors had "determined that the evidence was insufficient to meet our burden of proof to approve felony charges," Cristina Villareal, a spokeswoman for the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, said, adding that police agreed with the decision.

Despite what the police claim, the primary reason for not charging the suspects was lack of evidence, not mutual combat. Lack of cooperation from the combatants and other witnesses is crucial in the decision.

The police should have nothing to say about whether charges are filed or not. There’s a reason those powers are kept separated. Allowing the cops to make those decisions is how they do it in dictatorships.

ETA: so no one misunderstands, I wish they could charge all of those involved. But, when they get to court, the prosecutors will have to play according to the Constitution and the evidence.

Well Newman... I thought the mere possession of a firearm in Chicago was a crime... add in the Gang affiliation and you have chargeable offense. Seventy plus rounds fire... sure they could of pulled a print or two to prove a connection. Or how about public endangerment.. But hell no cut them loose as it's to much trouble to charge them. Yep that will teach them and others.... just do it. Or as in the past when the Mob ruler the DA... Gangs fat envelope swayed the day.

[PaceAdvantage]

mostpost is fine with people firing 70 shots in public...how many innocent people, including CHILDREN...could have been killed?

And they shouldn't be punished for that?

****

DRUNK DRIVERS get punished MORE SEVERELY if they are the tiniest bit over the limit and didn't hurt a fly.

LISTEN TO YOURSELF MOSTPOST.

YOU ARE INSANE (along with all those like you)

[Jeff P]

So none of the suspects are cooperating.

Does anyone really think that's a valid excuse for prosecutors to look the other way in a case like this?

When has 'suspects not cooperating' ever stopped prosecutors from doing their jobs before?

Wasn't the incident recorded (at least partially) on cell phone video?

Didn't witnesses at the time describe the makes and colors of the suspect vehicles involved?

Doesn't just about every freeway in the US (major streets in US metro areas too) have plenty of traffic-cams strategically placed so as to record images of drivers, passengers, and license plates of every single vehicle that passes by?

Knowing the date, time, and location when/where the incident occurred and the make and color of the suspect vehicles involved already provided by witnesses:

Couldn't the State's Attorney's Office investigate further if they wanted to?

If the witnesses they have aren't cooperating - couldn't the State's Attorney's Office generate a list of additional potential witnesses using traffic-cam footage if they wanted to?

What am I missing?



-jp

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[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

A 17-year-old can't walk into a bar and have a drink in this country...but he can fire an assault rifle in the middle of a crowded street. That's "Freedom", baby!

Near my old neighborhood in Elmhurst Queens is Middle Village. It's one of the nicest middle class sections of Queens. It's one the few places in Queens I still like. Last night my friend's daughter was attacked by "peaceful protestors" that went through the neighborhood damaging homes, cars, tearing down American flags, and chasing and throwing things at people in the neighborhood.

My friend is a sweet middle aged far left liberal.

She was saying today that if she had a gun she would have blown their brains out because of what they did to her daughter (fortunately no permanent damage to the daughter and she had no gun).

Did anyone report the story fully and accurately?

The NY Post at least came close. Everyone else sterilized it.

It's a multi layered problem.

1. We need strong police reform.

2. We need to address the root causes of high crime in certain communities (HONESTLY) so we reduce that crime and the resultant confrontations with police.

3. We need politicians to make law and order a priority and not act like police are the enemy. That way people will feel less of a need to own guns for self defense given they'd trust government and law enforcement to protect them and their property better.

4. We need the media to stop lying and creating narratives that are not true based on data just to advance their own political agendas.

5. We need politicians and media to stop acting like every decent citizen out there that owns a gun for either hunting or self defense is a right wing whack job. If politicians and media weren't incompetent dumb as rock lying sacks of shit, they'd own way fewer guns.

If we do all those things, it will become easier to limit and restrict guns, but no one in their right mind is going to give up a gun now when the government allows the "peaceful protestors" to attack people, destroy private property, riot etc.. and the rhetoric is that the police are the enemy and the riots are justified.

Right now there's an extra 55 year old 5'2" liberal woman in Queens that wants to buy an AR-15 to defend herself and her daughters even if that means killing people. That's the wrong direction.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

.......Right now there's an extra 55 year old 5'2" liberal woman in Queens that wants to buy an AR-15 to defend herself and her daughters even if that means killing people. That's the wrong direction.

Defending yourself and your family is never a wrong direction. It is unfortunate that many people are being forced to go in that direction.