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05-04-2013, 08:49 PM
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TheComputerGuy Retired
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Mike Smith sould be removed from Horse Racing Hall of Fame
http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...50413USA11.pdf
Mike Smith sould be removed from Horse Racing Hall of Fame
For his ride in the 139th KyDerby
Look at the early fractions:
Fractional Times: 22.57 45.33 109.80 136.16 Final: 202.89
Unbeliveable
look at where the top 5 finishers were at the Qtr pole
1- 16
2- 15
3- 17
4- 12
5- 18
He destroyed ALOT of horses chances, like Verrazno
I can't belive Palace Malace didn't finish LAST
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05-04-2013, 09:13 PM
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PA Steward
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You do realize there are other sections to this board besides Selections, correct? This post doesn't belong here.
With that said, the fractions didn't surprise me at all, although I didn't think Smith would be setting them.
The final time was awfully slow for such fast fractions. With fractions like that, I would figure the final time should have been much closer to the two minute mark...this doesn't flatter Orb at all in my opinion...
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05-04-2013, 09:20 PM
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What have you done for me lately?
Like the song says:
What a difference a day makes, 24 little hours....... 
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05-04-2013, 09:23 PM
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It wasn't a dry track and ORB came from way back
you can't make an analysis of pace and finish times
as you would on a dry surface. Trainers looked at
the previous winners and gave the wrong instructions
to a few who should not have been on the front end.
BUT BUT i've watched Smith since he had the bug
at Oak & Aksarben .He's not stupid .very weird ride.
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05-04-2013, 09:28 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Good thing the new point system keeps out all the cheap speed sprinters. They would have made a mockery out of the Derby. The points sure changed the race for the better.
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05-04-2013, 09:29 PM
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Blame it on the blinkers .
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05-04-2013, 09:32 PM
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Blinkers on for a horse that had shown quite a bit of sprint speed in his first three races. Far from the first time that I've seen a horse run off in that situation. When a thousand pounds of horse really and truly decides to do something, a hundred pounds of jockey doesn't have much say in the matter.
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05-04-2013, 09:33 PM
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TheComputerGuy Retired
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That's what he blamed it on
He is the Jockey
His job is to control the horses speed
He failed badly
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05-04-2013, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by whobet
That's what he blamed it on
He is the Jockey
His job is to control the horses speed
He failed badly
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Classic blame-the-jockey stuff. Do you think thoroughbreds are like marionette puppets on strings?
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05-04-2013, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whobet
That's what he blamed it on
He is the Jockey
His job is to control the horses speed
He failed badly
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then I suppose JV should also be removed from the HOF for failing to control Verrazano's speed?
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05-04-2013, 09:51 PM
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I got a long list of bums I want revoked if we're really getting serious now. 
Starting with Holy Bull...
(just kidding Pace Advantage)
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05-04-2013, 09:53 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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So John, what board will you be posting on in the future? 
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05-04-2013, 10:03 PM
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What's up doc?
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Originally Posted by RXB
Classic blame-the-jockey stuff. Do you think thoroughbreds are like marionette puppets on strings?
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With 5 in the race and if one were a conspiracy buff, it wouldn't take much convincing that someone were made Bugs Bunny.
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05-04-2013, 10:06 PM
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TheComputerGuy Retired
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Originally Posted by RXB
Classic blame-the-jockey stuff. Do you think thoroughbreds are like marionette puppets on strings?
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He said he didn't want to do something Stupid, Cause of the horses early speec
But that's what he did,
he didn't halter the horses speed
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05-04-2013, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
With 5 in the race and if one were a conspiracy buff, it wouldn't take much convincing that someone were made Bugs Bunny.
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Would the fact that he added blinkers and a classic veteran gate jock, while his M/L 4-1 near-fave was ice cold on the tote, and his Borel-ridden late charger was pounded to half his M/L from the word go factor into the conspiracy thinking?
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