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10-20-2016, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I think you're missing my point just a bit. I wasn't talking about everyone. Just far-left liberals.
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Last time looked they are in the minority in America, maybe 20% and even that might be a little high. The majority of Americans are moderate.
They do not want either side crazy. Most Americans want a job, some spending money, a nice car a nice home. They don't care about politics.
Heck if you asked "who is Vice President" how many out of a hundred would come up with the correct answer.
Allan
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10-20-2016, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Well, that's way off of what the polling is right now. I guess we'll see.
RCP current average in Utah:
RCP Average 10/10 - 10/19 -- -- Trump (30.8) Clinton (25.2) McMullin (24.4) Johnson (8.0) Stein (0.8) Trump +5.6
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Huge trend towards McMullen who is stealing Johnson supporters.
He just started 45 days ago getting on the ballots and has made huge inroads in the Mormon community.
Allan
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10-20-2016, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Huge trend towards McMullen who is stealing Johnson supporters.
He just started 45 days ago getting on the ballots and has made huge inroads in the Mormon community.
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Plus I have heard the Hillary herself is telling her supporters in Utah to vote for McMullin. Sorta an operation chaos in reverse.
allan
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10-20-2016, 06:20 PM
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McMullen could also potentially affect the outcomes in Nevada and Arizona. He won't win either but unlike Johnson who draws away from both candidates, McMullen votes come almost exclusively out of the Trump column.
Last edited by _______; 10-20-2016 at 06:32 PM.
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10-20-2016, 07:59 PM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by _______
McMullen could also potentially affect the outcomes in Nevada and Arizona. He won't win either but unlike Johnson who draws away from both candidates, McMullen votes come almost exclusively out of the Trump column.
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I wonder how much money Mittens Romney Scumbag gave to the McMullen Mormon campaign??......What a crock of crap this whole nonsense is... 
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10-20-2016, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I wonder how much money Mittens Romney Scumbag gave to the McMullen Mormon campaign??......What a crock of crap this whole nonsense is... |
We're now preparing to blame Mormons...
This is getting good!
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-20-2016 at 10:36 PM.
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10-20-2016, 10:43 PM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
We're now preparing to blame Mormons...
This is getting good!
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You really are a blind fool if you can't see what's going on... 
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10-20-2016, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
You really are a blind fool if you can't see what's going on... |
What is going on? Fill me in.
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10-21-2016, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What is going on? Fill me in.
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Trump's entire demeanor is an insult to Mormon sensibilities and they got organized.
I have to admit this caught me by surprise. I had written McMullen off because of his extraordinarily late start but his numbers are skyrocketing in Utah.
If Trump loses Nevada or Arizona it'll be more attributable to his motivation of the Hispanic base but in a close race, Mormon's voting for McMullen could make the difference in either one.
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10-21-2016, 12:32 AM
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Trump won't win. It will take a wiki leaks Avalanche to unseat her.
Neither candidate will get a thing done, they're too polarizing. Legislation will get bogged down, USSC appointments will be painful. Like pulling teeth.
What dems need to realize, is Hillary is going to face major legal issues after she wins. The dogs aren't going to let up simply because she won an election... Itll be another drip drip drip torture like watergate was. She won't be able to control it, like Bill wasn't able to control the lewinsky saga leading to his impeachment.
The press needs someone to kick around. Trump will be gone, that leaves a very unlike able target by the name of Hillary Clinton. She'll be free meat come mid terms.
And THAT is what I will be interested in.
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10-21-2016, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Trump won't win. It will take a wiki leaks Avalanche to unseat her.
Neither candidate will get a thing done, they're too polarizing. Legislation will get bogged down, USSC appointments will be painful. Like pulling teeth.
What dems need to realize, is Hillary is going to face major legal issues after she wins. The dogs aren't going to let up simply because she won an election... Itll be another drip drip drip torture like watergate was. She won't be able to control it, like Bill wasn't able to control the lewinsky saga leading to his impeachment.
The press needs someone to kick around. Trump will be gone, that leaves a very unlike able target by the name of Hillary Clinton. She'll be free meat come mid terms.
And THAT is what I will be interested in.
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I disagree with your premise that Hillary wins in November, but, if she's able to steal the election, then ... legislation and her agenda will not be bogged down as you say.
Even before this presidential election has been decided, the GOP in DC has already begun bending over and exposing their soft arses in complete capitulation.
Two stupid, weak and corrupted Republican senators, Johnny Isakson of Georgia and John Cornyn of Texas have already stated in public that they 'will be able to work with Hillary Clinton' in the next congress. And as we get closer to November 8 I expect to see/hear more GOP wimps such as Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Paul Ryan, and other geldings give interviews solely to say ' that the people's business will continue, that's why they send us to Washington, to get things done...' ... as they unfold the white flag.
GOP (1856-2016), RIP
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10-21-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I wonder how much money Mittens Romney Scumbag gave to the McMullen Mormon campaign??......What a crock of crap this whole nonsense is... |
Always good turning on your own.
Best democratic example is Joe Lieberman.
Allan
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10-21-2016, 01:02 PM
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#343
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
We're now preparing to blame Mormons...
This is getting good!
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Can't get anything past you.
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10-22-2016, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Trump won't win. It will take a wiki leaks Avalanche to unseat her.
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Yes he will
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10-22-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss2002
Yes he will
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You're going to become very rich off of this election.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...on-2016/winner
5/1 on a certainty in a two horse race. That's like printing you're own money.
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