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Old 05-22-2014, 04:13 PM   #76
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When is that?

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Old 05-22-2014, 05:08 PM   #77
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When is that?
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:45 PM   #78
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Message from DRF

Get All Thursday & Friday PPs for Free!

Thank you for your patience while we resolve DRF.com technical issues.

We are currently devoting all resources to resolving this issue and hope to

have access restored as quickly as possible.

In the meantime, we are providing FREE access to all PPs for today's and

tomorrow's races.

Live.DRF.com

No offense but that is GARBAGE FOR ME. I have 6 years of notes stored in my formulator. Betting with any racing form / equibase / timeform / whatever is like betting BLIND for me. None of MY detailed trip notes/race dynamics/gallop out info/bias notes etc.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:49 PM   #79
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I love it when they email me and say "we'll give you a free week for your inconvenience ". I just laugh and write back "a free week of something I can't use, chee how nice of you".
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:12 PM   #80
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Message from DRF

Get All Thursday & Friday PPs for Free!

Thank you for your patience while we resolve DRF.com technical issues.

We are currently devoting all resources to resolving this issue and hope to

have access restored as quickly as possible.

In the meantime, we are providing FREE access to all PPs for today's and

tomorrow's races.

Live.DRF.com
Friday's links not working........
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:41 PM   #81
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This went over everyone's head but was still brilliant.
I did a double take ( just read this thread) but I busted out laughing when I saw it was Tom
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:35 PM   #82
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No offense but that is GARBAGE FOR ME. I have 6 years of notes stored in my formulator. Betting with any racing form / equibase / timeform / whatever is like betting BLIND for me. None of MY detailed trip notes/race dynamics/gallop out info/bias notes etc.
Look at the bright side - NYRA moved all the good stuff out of this weekend.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:20 PM   #83
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It looks like the free past performances are on Amazon servers.

Maybe DRF are going to hire a vendor to handle the storage and maintenance of their data?
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:49 AM   #84
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It's all about the $$$. To implement a high availability, multi-site architecture is not cheap, though DRF is finding out now it would have been money well spent. Cloud vendors spout off on how "easy", cheap and safe their products are, but the vulnerabilities are still there. The latest fiasco:

http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcamp...earchers/52571


I wonder how many Formulator users are going to go pick another solution? Or, if it allows you to back up your notes, how many will start doing that now....
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Old 05-23-2014, 04:06 AM   #85
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It's all about the $$$. To implement a high availability, multi-site architecture is not cheap, though DRF is finding out now it would have been money well spent. Cloud vendors spout off on how "easy", cheap and safe their products are, but the vulnerabilities are still there. The latest fiasco:

http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcamp...earchers/52571


I wonder how many Formulator users are going to go pick another solution? Or, if it allows you to back up your notes, how many will start doing that now....
You think everyone with Formulator lost all their notes for good?
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:58 AM   #86
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Starting to become a joke. 3 days and a power outage cannot be fixed. This is not a third world country. Just wondering if DRF has other problems like financial. Hope not? Been using the DRF for 42 years to handicap races. Maybe time for a change. What else out there is good and on par with DRF.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:26 AM   #87
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A company who entices you to use their online applications has a responsibility for your data. However, like DRF, most such firms are fairly quiet about how they plan for disaster and what their data protection and recovery plans are. I would never expect Formulator users to suffer a complete loss of data, but I would never expect a robust data center to be unavailable for 2½ days.

We all need to be careful when relying on online applications like Formulator, BetMix, TimeFormUS, or our ADWs. Individually, our internet connections may not be as reliable as we would want and we have little or no information on how prepared these firms are. We vote with our pocketbooks and generally push these vendors to have the most competitive pricing and/or the best rebates. It is only during an outage that we tend to focus on backup and recovery.

This is pure speculation, but recently the error when connecting to their actual servers has changed from a 404-Not Found error to a 403-Forbidden error. That may indicate that they are internally testing their servers and have actually made some progress in their recovery.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:41 AM   #88
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Come on people, power outage? Really? I guess some one just tripped over the extension cord and they are all running around trying to figure out what's wrong.

2 1/2 days could fit into their plan for an acceptable amount of time being down. Every business is different. Back in the 1980's when I worked for an S & L, it was well understood if we lost the data center for more than 5 days, we'd be out of business. That was then, now a days, I doubt even a small financial institution could be down for more than a couple without going belly up.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:43 AM   #89
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Maybe it's a grand plan to limit players data for the big GP pick 6 on Monday, leaving only DRF with detailed information and a better shot at it. Obviously kidding.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:52 AM   #90
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It's all about the $$$. To implement a high availability, multi-site architecture is not cheap, though DRF is finding out now it would have been money well spent. Cloud vendors spout off on how "easy", cheap and safe their products are, but the vulnerabilities are still there. The latest fiasco:

http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcamp...earchers/52571


I wonder how many Formulator users are going to go pick another solution? Or, if it allows you to back up your notes, how many will start doing that now....
The link provided an interesting read. Thanks.

I found the following to be very interesting:
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We did have a multiple backup strategy in place using proprietary software. It has been very challenging finding software to handle this job at the scales of data we are working with. Unfortunately the software we chose to use corrupted occasional backups. In our testing we did not encounter an issue, but during the event the full backups needed to restore were unrecoverable.
After reading the above quotation, I'd say Dedoose is not ready for prime time.
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