Religion III

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

The difference is that evolution is not a religious concept but a scientific concept. Thus the teaching of evolution in a science class of a publicly funded school does not "respect an establishment of religion." Creationism is a religious concept and as such cannot be taught in publicly funded schools.

Creationism can be taught in publicly funded schools as part of a class on comparative religion, but any publicly funded school that does so must be careful to include religions that do not subscribe to creationism, e.g., the Roman Catholic Church and Buddhism. They also must take care that students understand that no conversion to any particular religion is intended. For what it's worth I know of no public school which offers such a course and I doubt that many do.

You should educate yourself on this topic. I suggest you read The Devil in Dover by Lauri Lebo.

https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Dover-I...s=books&sr=1-1

Better yet watch this video which gives a more detailed report on the facts than does Lebo's book.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xyrel-2vI

Again, teaching the mode of creationism is not establishing any particular religion because many religions believe in creation in one form another.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

And besides, it's irrelevant.

Then why did you make the statement?

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Again, teaching the mode [sic] of creationism is not establishing any particular religion because many religions believe in creation in one form another.

And many do not. What about them?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

The first to present the case for creationism was the Babylonians 600 B.C.E. The "other" that "came forward" was Darwin (and others) 1859 C.E.

Actually, atheists existed long before "Darwin (and others"). Psalms 14 and 53 were penned way before their time.

Also, when only one side of an issue is presented at any time, then at that time that one side is logically the first to present his case. If someone is the only one permitted to state his case, then who is going to be second to him?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

And many do not. What about them?

Then they would have your atheistic naturalism to hug to their bosom, wouldn't they? You see, we Christians are big on free choice.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What's really relevant is Fair and Balanced instead of censorship. This is how schools are supposed to teach kids -- how to think for themselves, instead of indoctrinating them with just one side.

Originally Posted by boxcar

Then they would have your atheistic naturalism to hug to their bosom, wouldn't they? You see, we Christians are big on free choice.

Christians are big on free choice? You could have fooled me. But I'll take your word for it. That's wonderful.

So let's do what you propose in your previous post#6868. "teach kids how to think for themselves, instead of indoctrinating them with just one side." I'll gladly volunteer one hour of my time each day to teach a class on atheism at the local high school. PEW research says that about one kid in 20 does not believe. If I could increase that by one kid per year it would be worth it.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Actor

Christians are big on free choice? You could have fooled me. But I'll take your word for it. That's wonderful.

So let's do what you propose in your previous post#6868. "teach kids how to think for themselves, instead of indoctrinating them with just one side." I'll gladly volunteer one hour of my time each day to teach a class on atheism at the local high school. PEW research says that about one kid in 20 does not believe. If I could increase that by one kid per year it would be worth it.

The late Christopher Hitchings suggested that he would be ok with billions in tax breaks for churches if evolution were taught alongside the Bible in Sunday school.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

Christians are big on free choice? You could have fooled me. But I'll take your word for it. That's wonderful.

So let's do what you propose in your previous post#6868. "teach kids how to think for themselves, instead of indoctrinating them with just one side." I'll gladly volunteer one hour of my time each day to teach a class on atheism at the local high school. PEW research says that about one kid in 20 does not believe. If I could increase that by one kid per year it would be worth it.

You need to pay attention more. It's only the godless leftists who have a love affair with censorship.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by TJDave

The late Christopher Hitchings suggested that he would be ok with billions in tax breaks for churches if evolution were taught alongside the Bible in Sunday school.

Will never happen. God hates liars and their lies.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You need to pay attention more. It's only the godless leftists who have a love affair with censorship.

That explains why Galileo was not locked up for his heliocentric view.

So you agree that atheism should have equal time in public schools!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

That explains why Galileo was not locked up for his heliocentric view.

So you agree that atheism should have equal time in public schools!

Secular Humanism already has time in the the public school system. It's creationism that doesn't. Just a reminder.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Secular Humanism already has time in the the public school system.

Name one such public school system.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

Name one such public school system.

Isn't evolution taught in all schools?

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Isn't evolution taught in all schools?

I kind of doubt it. But there is more to "secular humanism" than evolution.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Actually, atheists existed long before "Darwin (and others"). Psalms 14 and 53 were penned way before their time.

Exactly when were Psalms 14 and 53 penned?