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10-10-2020, 06:06 PM
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what an easy game.
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HOW WELL IS THAT LATE MONEY DOING?
10-10-2020, GG R4
LATE MONEY ON THE #7 MADE IT THE FAVORITS. 5/7 EXACTA WINS
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10-11-2020, 12:58 PM
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what an easy game.
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Belmont Park Race 1
LATE MONEY OF THE #1 CHANGED IT FROM 2ND CHOICE TO FAV AND IT WON 1/3 EXACTA
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" I pass with relief from the tossing sea of cause and theory to the firm ground of result and fact"
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10-12-2020, 01:33 PM
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LATE $$
How LATE is Late? Meaning 2 MTP, 0 MTP, etc? Or did either of your examples become late money favs on the first turn? I've preferred using early money, if it has some confirming factors, because it still gives me time to make or change a bet.
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10-12-2020, 01:48 PM
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what an easy game.
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Finger Lakes Race 3
late money on the #7 made it the favorite and it finished 3rd
oh yes, my top pick wins
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Last edited by formula_2002; 10-12-2020 at 01:59 PM.
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10-12-2020, 01:55 PM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged
How LATE is Late? Meaning 2 MTP, 0 MTP, etc? Or did either of your examples become late money favs on the first turn? I've preferred using early money, if it has some confirming factors, because it still gives me time to make or change a bet.
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I download the tote board data while the horses are somewhat away from the gate, perhaps 1 min before loading. I define the horse that takes late money if my top pick, the favorite, becomes the second choice and the late money goes on the new favorite.
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10-12-2020, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Finger Lakes Race 3
late money on the #7 made it the favorite and it finished 3rd
oh yes, my top pick wins
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wrong race J?
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10-12-2020, 02:27 PM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyb
wrong race J?
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Yes, it was race 2
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10-12-2020, 07:37 PM
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There have been many threads about the late money, insider money, past-posting money, etc. looking at it from almost every angle. We've had a decent amount of documentation that the groups betting late are smarter than the average bettor. You cherry-picking races and saying how your horse did or didn't do proves nothing.
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10-12-2020, 08:28 PM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by castaway01
There have been many threads about the late money, insider money, past-posting money, etc. looking at it from almost every angle. We've had a decent amount of documentation that the groups betting late are smarter than the average bettor. You cherry-picking races and saying how your horse did or didn't do proves nothing.
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There is no cherry picking.
Why would you say that? Its not really my horse its whatever the public's top choice is when I download the toteboard data. I dont recall seeing the documentation you refer to. Would appreciate any lead you can throw my way. I would like to read about it. Thanks
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10-17-2020, 06:19 PM
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what an easy game.
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Santa Anita Race 5
LATE MONEY ON THE #6 MADE IT THE FAVORITE OVER #2
#2 PLACED, #6 FINISHED 3RD
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10-28-2020, 10:32 AM
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what an easy game.
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HK Happy Valley* Race 8 10/28/2020
at appox 1 min to post # 7 had 10% of the win pool dollars.
thereafter 20% and it won... went from beyond the 3rd choice to favorite
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10-28-2020, 12:07 PM
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LATE MONEY HONG KONG
I did notice the LATE money on the 7 horse. He went to the front from a OUTSIDE post and was never THREATEN. I have notice this current racing season (HONG KONG racing) a lot of horses that have gone BROWN or GREEN have certainly produced winning efforts. NITRO has been usually silent on this current TREND.
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10-28-2020, 12:09 PM
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LATE MONEY HONG KONG
NITRO has been UNUSUALLY silent on this current trend at HONG KONG
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10-28-2020, 10:27 PM
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I’m really not sure what the purpose of this entire thread is all about. I mean who really cares about entries getting bet heavily near post time. Even if it were found to be meaningful in some way what could you do about it? Rush to attempt to make a hasty bet (with lots of potential for a costly error)? And then all I’m seeing is chalk. It might be another story if Formula was hitting long shots with some regularity. If you’re after the chalk you’d better have an unusually high hit frequency to realize any substantial profit margin.
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Originally Posted by hopbet
LATE MONEY HONG KONG
I have notice this current racing season (HONG KONG racing) a lot of horses that have gone BROWN or GREEN have certainly produced winning efforts. NITRO has been UNUSUALLY silent on this current trend at HONG KONG.
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I have notice this current racing season (HONG KONG racing) a lot of horses that have gone BROWN or GREEN have certainly produced winning efforts. NITRO has been UNUSUALLY silent on this current trend at HONG KONG.
I won’t deny that entries getting bet down in Hong Kong by 20% (going Green) or by 50% (going Brown) shouldn’t be considered, but more often than not, these entries don’t always win. That’s not to say that they won’t show up some where in the money. The really nice thing about HK betting is that you normally DON’T have to wait to near post time to see these late moves. So the opportunity to advantage of these events is nearly always there.
I’m not sure which threads or posts of mine that Hopbet is viewing because whenever there’s some unusual tote board activity it’s nearly always mentioned when it results in a positive outcome.
Perhaps of some simple links to my recent HK posts and their review will prove me out:
SAT 10-24 : http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161124
SUN 10-18: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161026
SUN 10-11: http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=160912
SUN 10-4 : http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=160790
Etc., Etc.
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10-28-2020, 10:29 PM
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Apply this concept to the last race at Mountaineer tonight.
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