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Old 10-30-2014, 11:26 PM   #1
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At what point do they equal Nazi Germany?

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/1952...certain-death/

At what point does a consensus of countries, good men, leaders of righteous good decide that these animals are equal to the Nazi horrors?

Where is the line drawn? What do they have to do to step over the line?

These groups that follow ISIS.....and act in the same vein in countries like Yemen, etc......they are growing unchecked.

Hundreds of missing and enslaved women and girls, widespread executions, debauchereous actions of an inhumane nature forced upon women of different countries do not add up to an equal kind of horror that divided the world in the nineteen forties?

I submit that it does. It is us that has changed. We no longer have the stomach to judge, identify evil and most of all, fight the good fight.

We also lack the leaders necessary to form a righteous coalition of good men to fight this evil that rests comfortably knowing that they face no serious threat. Are there no men left? Only politicians made of dubious qualities that serve only themselves. Where do we find another Churchill?
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:44 PM   #2
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its only a few of a peaceful religion (something like 20%) that would do such things
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:46 AM   #3
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At what point does a consensus of countries, good men, leaders of righteous good decide that these animals are equal to the Nazi horrors?

Where is the line drawn? What do they have to do to step over the line?

These groups that follow ISIS.....and act in the same vein in countries like Yemen, etc......they are growing unchecked.

Hundreds of missing and enslaved women and girls, widespread executions, debauchereous actions of an inhumane nature forced upon women of different countries do not add up to an equal kind of horror that divided the world in the nineteen forties?

I submit that it does. It is us that has changed. We no longer have the stomach to judge, identify evil and most of all, fight the good fight.

We also lack the leaders necessary to form a righteous coalition of good men to fight this evil that rests comfortably knowing that they face no serious threat. Are there no men left? Only politicians made of dubious qualities that serve only themselves. Where do we find another Churchill?
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:23 AM   #4
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good point Ralph.

but,.....Houston, we have a problem


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Old 10-31-2014, 03:42 AM   #5
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We lost 183,855 troops fighting the Nazi scourge.

A show of hands of all here willing to support that kind of commitment.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:46 AM   #6
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Too late to really make a difference. What Dave and Huskers said sums it up.
Liberals have said all along that it's not our problem, let them deal with it. Well, now it's our problem, and the solution is going to be ugly.
This enemy is worse than the Nazis. They don't even value their own lives.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:13 AM   #7
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We lost 183,855 troops fighting the Nazi scourge.

A show of hands of all here willing to support that kind of commitment.
TJDave, I'm going to spare you for now until you explain yourself further. No one wants to lose another 183,855 troops. No one wanted to lose 100,000 troops, or 200,000, but the Nazi's didn't give our country or anyone who wanted a free and safe world any choice (at least as free and safe as it had been up to that point.) It took "Whatever It Takes." I see the same thing here. We can either convert to their style of evil ISIS version of Sunni Islam, get on all fours and get slaughtered, or we can fight them. I don't know what kind of commitment it will take, but at least I know it's going to take "Whatever It Takes."

If we'd have asked 183,855 and said "No", where would the world be now, or the last 73+ years?

Forget hypothetical numbers. Do you think we need to do "Whatever It Takes", convert, or let them come and execute us, and most of the world?

Where do you stand TJDave, because I don't know from your post as written.

I sure as hell hope it doesn't come to having to take these actions, but if it does, where do you stand?

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good point Ralph.

but,.....Houston, we have a problem


BO and Hillary both squat to piss
When you ask a person to make decisions that they are not comfortable making the results are often not what most would expect. Compound that with the fact that said decisions involve other peoples sons and daughters has me on the fence. Just look at the examples set with other peoples money.

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Old 10-31-2014, 07:17 AM   #9
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http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/1952...certain-death/

At what point does a consensus of countries, good men, leaders of righteous good decide that these animals are equal to the Nazi horrors?

Where is the line drawn? What do they have to do to step over the line?

These groups that follow ISIS.....and act in the same vein in countries like Yemen, etc......they are growing unchecked.

Hundreds of missing and enslaved women and girls, widespread executions, debauchereous actions of an inhumane nature forced upon women of different countries do not add up to an equal kind of horror that divided the world in the nineteen forties?

I submit that it does. It is us that has changed. We no longer have the stomach to judge, identify evil and most of all, fight the good fight.

We also lack the leaders necessary to form a righteous coalition of good men to fight this evil that rests comfortably knowing that they face no serious threat. Are there no men left? Only politicians made of dubious qualities that serve only themselves. Where do we find another Churchill?
So now you want to invade Mexico too? Everything you said about inhumane treatment applies to large parts of Mexico and other Latin American countries too. It also applies to large hunks of Africa and Asia. There is no shortage of evil out there. Sadly ISIS only has one franchise of it.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:30 AM   #10
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Nazis and muslims - same team during WWII.
No difference, then or now.

And Bobby, I have LONG advocated war with Mexico.
They are our enemy.
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Nazis and muslims - same team during WWII.
No difference, then or now.

And Bobby, I have LONG advocated war with Mexico.
They are our enemy.
How many wars can we fight at the same time?
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:57 AM   #12
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just one if we do it right.


right now the USA says no and everyone laughs and keeps right on doing what ever the hell they want.

remember in the movie TORA! TORA! TORA! when the admiral said "all we have done is waken a sleeping dog"?

Dog is awake but he has no teeth, and no clue.
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the wold keep turning, but we have to learn from history. people don't change, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent.

for those that don't know what the world is all about, its pretty simple. either you are doing the eating or something else is eating you up.

in broad day light we are witnessing the newest generation of scum bum dirty rats that have to be forced out of their holes and eliminated. it doesn't matter which innocent person they are hiding behind, if the innocent goes down with them, that's life.

the reason why i know that i am right is that when we see the unconscionable acts on video, the culprits have their faces covered up an their voices scrambled. that is telling me this has nothing to do with religion, just some madman that is leading their lemming follower's that are also demented. the religion part is just a smokescreen to keep their follower's in line.

they are scaring their own mother's and children to make sure their evil ways are embedded into their culture to ruin the world.

our problem is we have no strong leaders in our world today that are prepared to sacrifice for the good of all mankind
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well put!
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http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/1952...certain-death/

At what point does a consensus of countries, good men, leaders of righteous good decide that these animals are equal to the Nazi horrors?

Where is the line drawn? What do they have to do to step over the line?

These groups that follow ISIS.....and act in the same vein in countries like Yemen, etc......they are growing unchecked.

Hundreds of missing and enslaved women and girls, widespread executions, debauchereous actions of an inhumane nature forced upon women of different countries do not add up to an equal kind of horror that divided the world in the nineteen forties?

I submit that it does. It is us that has changed. We no longer have the stomach to judge, identify evil and most of all, fight the good fight.

We also lack the leaders necessary to form a righteous coalition of good men to fight this evil that rests comfortably knowing that they face no serious threat. Are there no men left? Only politicians made of dubious qualities that serve only themselves. Where do we find another Churchill?
Not even close. The Nazis murdered six million Jews and millions of Gypsies, homosexuals and mentally retarded. That doesn't even count the tens of millions who died in the war.

Unquestionably ISIS and groups like it have committed terrible atrocities, but for volume the Nazis far exceed them. What makes the ISIS actions seem as bad is the instant news cycle we have now. When something happens in the Middle East today, we not only hear about it today, we see it today. And social media lets us discuss it for days afterwards.

Today's leaders have done much to combat terrorism; from the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Irag to the more precision strikes against terrorist outposts to the air strikes and providing of weapons and materials to those fighting ISIS today.

Tell me. What did the leaders of the 1930's do when Hitler annexed Austria? What did they do when he invaded the Sudetenland? What did they do when Hitler began persecuting the Jews? They looked the other way. We all know the name Neville Chamberlain, but the French were also involved at Munich.

You are correct. ISIS are not nice people, but you are wrong that nothing is being done about them. And you are wrong that-at the beginning-previous leaders handled that situation any better.
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