America’s safest cities

[GameTheory]

The decline in crime rates is reported all the time (as new rates come out for the previous year, etc) by all the news outlets...they report them if they go up or down or stay the same. The overall crime rate is currently the lowest in my lifetime (actually it about matches the year I was born: 1970). It was significantly lower than that if you go back farther to the early & mid 60's, we are unlikely to get back to those levels ever.

Apparently leaded gasoline was a big determinant (not kidding)...if you can handle a Mother Jones article, here it is:

http://www.motherjones.com/environme...-link-gasoline

[JustRalph]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/09...-claims-study/

Murder is down

[BlueShoe]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

They are small.

No They are not. Of the four cities in SoCal, I am very familiar with one, Glendale, somewhat with another, Irvine, and slightly familiar with Murietta and Temecula.

I lived in Glendale for most of my adult life, 34 years, before moving to OC. It has a large Armenian and Latino population, and is not as affluent as it once was, there are still working and lower middle class neighborhoods.

Irvine is the most "Yuppiefied", most residents are well to do moneywise. There is a large number of Asian citizens that send their children to UC Irvine.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by BlueShoe

No They are not. Of the four cities in SoCal, I am very familiar with one, Glendale, somewhat with another, Irvine, and slightly familiar with Murietta and Temecula.

I lived in Glendale for most of my adult life, 34 years, before moving to OC. It has a large Armenian and Latino population, and is not as affluent as it once was, there are still working and lower middle class neighborhoods.

Irvine is the most "Yuppiefied", most residents are well to do moneywise. There is a large number of Asian citizens that send their children to UC Irvine.

The largest city on the list has 238,000 people. You should not compare them to large metro areas. Lincoln(pop 270k) is 40 miles of farm land from the Omaha area(pop 900k), but might just as well be a 1,000 miles apart when it comes to crime. All a citizen of Lincoln needs to do is listen to the 10 o'clock news on an Omaha tv station to feel safe in Lincoln.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

The largest city on the list has 238,000 people. You should not compare them to large metro areas. Lincoln(pop 270k) is 40 miles of farm land from the Omaha area(pop 900k), but might just as well be a 1,000 miles apart when it comes to crime. All a citizen of Lincoln needs to do is listen to the 10 o'clock news on an Omaha tv station to feel safe in Lincoln.

Have you ever been to Glendale! It's all part of one big large metropolitan area known as Los Angeles. If a crime is committed in Glendale it's very probable that the perp lived in an adjacent city.

[BlueShoe]

Originally Posted by AndyC

Have you ever been to Glendale! It's all part of one big large metropolitan area known as Los Angeles. If a crime is committed in Glendale it's very probable that the perp lived in an adjacent city.

The same can be said for Irvine, it is part of the enormous megatropolis of Los Angeles-Orange County-Riverside, etc. metro area.

[GameTheory]

Originally Posted by BlueShoe

The same can be said for Irvine, it is part of the enormous megatropolis of Los Angeles-Orange County-Riverside, etc. metro area.

It is true of parts of Glendale (other parts are up in the hills and isolated), but not really Irvine. I mean yes Irvine is part of the whole metro area, but it is sort of the end of the road there, not really connected in a dense urban way like Glendale is. (People don't go through Irvine to get to somewhere else, it is surrounded by non-urban stuff or coastline, look at it on the map.) I'm surprised that many people even live in Irvine -- the place is basically an office park.

(I was once a courier in SoCal -- I know every nook and cranny of LA and Orange county.)

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

The largest city on the list has 238,000 people. You should not compare them to large metro areas.

Tell that to what few good people are left in Flint, Michigan.

[BlueShoe]

Originally Posted by GameTheory

It is true of parts of Glendale (other parts are up in the hills and isolated), but not really Irvine. I mean yes Irvine is part of the whole metro area, but it is sort of the end of the road there, not really connected in a dense urban way like Glendale is. (People don't go through Irvine to get to somewhere else, it is surrounded by non-urban stuff or coastline, look at it on the map.) I'm surprised that many people even live in Irvine -- the place is basically an office park.

(I was once a courier in SoCal -- I know every nook and cranny of LA and Orange county.)

Not really Irvine? There are five freeways that run through Irvine, an airport, and a major university, but Irvine is the end of the road? That would be a surprise to the quarter of a million humans that call it home.