Jonathon Kinchen

[Tom]

Un-bee-lee-vable!
The depths of greed are unlimited.

[LemonSoupKid]

Originally Posted by linrom1

It's a disgrace that DRF lets this guy pitch his plays on otherwise fine Out of the Gate program.

There was a saying that I came across about ten years ago about one particular stock market prognosticator that most dangerous people are educated and articulate morons, JK fits that to a tee.

I'm trying to figure out if you think he's just outright bad, if you think it's shady that he's a tourney player and up to no good by throwing other people off with chalk picks, or just that he's randomly allotted a segment on what you consider to be a great show. Or, all of the above?



Nice reference to that amusing saying, lin

[Brass Hat]

Kinchen is an occasional guest on Pete Fornatale's handicapping show on the second floor at Saratoga on Saturdays. On the day of the Test a couple of years ago, he gave out Paolo Queen who went off at over 50-1. I listened to him, knew he was a big tournament player but not much else about him at that time, and thought this guy was reaching, didn't put two bucks on her. The rest is history.

[HalvOnHorseracing]

A few years ago I was standing at the rail in the Saratoga clubhouse. Graham Motion comes along dressed in the suit and tie. The owners of the horse he trains in the next race are sitting in front of me - they looked kind of small time but they were all dressed up too - and Motion was basically assuring them that today was the day. So what the hell. Cranking up a horse for out of town owners is pretty common, and Motion was well respected on the turf, so I made a small win bet and threw him in some trifecta's. The horse lost in a photo.

There is hardly a handicapper alive who wouldn't bet on information from an A-1 source.

[Suff]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

I was up until 2:45 this morning. I wonder if that 15 minutes is the difference between he and I. What time does he get started?

He was at Saratoga and in a live contest last week, he bombed out early.

I've heard him say a few times that he uses DRF formulator.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Fuss

He was at Saratoga and in a live contest last week, he bombed out early.

I've heard him say a few times that he uses DRF formulator.

He's a big TimeformUS guy too.

[Suff]

Originally Posted by cj

He's a big TimeformUS guy too.

Of course, who isn't!


I've picked up dribs and drabs of his story. His Dad loved the track but did not speak english. Jonatha translated the DRF to his father as a kid, at the track.

Good story. Good Guy. He's easy to like, a horse players, horse player.

[linrom1]

Originally Posted by LemonSoupKid

I'm trying to figure out if you think he's just outright bad, if you think it's shady that he's a tourney player and up to no good by throwing other people off with chalk picks, or just that he's randomly allotted a segment on what you consider to be a great show. Or, all of the above?



Nice reference to that amusing saying, lin

I don't want to pick on anyone, but after watching him for over a year, I think that DRFTV should bring-on another guest handicapper. Kinchen is obsoletely hopeless and extremely dangerous because he is very well spoken and articulate.

He only picks chalk and then the wrong ones every time!!

[cj]

Originally Posted by linrom1

I don't want to pick on anyone, but after watching him for over a year, I think that DRFTV should bring-on another guest handicapper. Kinchen is obsoletely hopeless and extremely dangerous because he is very well spoken and articulate.

He only picks chalk and then the wrong ones every time!!

He isn't doing well in many of these tournaments by just picking chalk. That is silly talk.

[Suff]

The little I know about him, was the side shit that I picked up while he was talking horses. When you listen to him describe the ways he digs into races, the different templates he used in Formulator, the Trainer/Jockey filters he has built into Formulator, the distance filters he uses, and how he ties it all into Timeform ratings... the man is not making it up, or hiding anything, or throwing people of his horses. He's out there....open book.

He reminds me of dan bilzerian in a way. 5 years from now, he'll be getting paid $10 grand just to show up somewhere. And probably have made a few million in crytpo's. He's a smart guy.

[linrom1]

Originally Posted by cj

He isn't doing well in many of these tournaments by just picking chalk. That is silly talk.

He didn't acquire his nickname as chalk-eater for nothing! But that's secondary point which is really irrelevant to my main point about his incompetency on picking plays on Out-of-the-Gate as an expert!

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by linrom1

He didn't acquire his nickname as chalk-eater for nothing! But that's secondary point which is really irrelevant to my main point about his incompetency on picking plays on Out-of-the-Gate as an expert!

Don't you ever tire from being the biggest idiot on this board?

Granted, it's an achievement, but most wouldn't wear it so proudly.

[linrom1]

Originally Posted by the little guy

Don't you ever tire from being the biggest idiot on this board?

Granted, it's an achievement, but most wouldn't wear it so proudly.

Brilliant post by self-serving jerk.

[the little guy]

Apparently not.

[Suff]

Now see he is involved in this. August 10th Drf.com

Tournament player Jonathon Kinchen and I created a new contest format, made for TV, based as much as possible on how a poker tournament works.



https://www.drf.com/news/world-horse...ction-gamblers

He should post here, maybe good for business?. Also perhaps he can leave a couple of Kinchen specials for an old beat down horse player like me?

I want my pick 4 ticket to be, all/Kinchen/Kinchen/all

I did say some nice things about him!