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View Poll Results: American Pharoah's next race
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Travers
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43.75% |
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Pacific Classic
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17.71% |
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PA Derby
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22.92% |
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JC Gold Cup
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11.46% |
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Other (please explain)
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08-02-2015, 06:30 PM
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American Pharoah - next race?
There are 2 questions to be answered here.
Firstly, where will Zayat choose to run him next?
After that, will there be another prep before the BC Classic?
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08-02-2015, 06:39 PM
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Pacific very weak older division..
It won be the Travers. ..Baffert hates Saratoga..
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08-02-2015, 06:40 PM
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If it is not the Travers, they are making a huge mistake.
Only Whirlaway has won the Triple Crown and Travers, American Pharoah deserves the opportunity.
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08-02-2015, 07:04 PM
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I think the best spot is going to be JC Gold Cup against older and then BCC of course...
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08-02-2015, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Kash$
Pacific very weak older division..
It won be the Travers. ..Baffert hates Saratoga..
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Even with the Purse bump to $1.6 million?
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08-02-2015, 07:13 PM
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Just as I had figured, it was what I call a "pari-mutuel workout" for AP....
Smith had him wrapped up for the better part of the last 3/16ths..
The horse is truly on top of his game.
Now, logically, the Travers should be next. However I can see Baffert recommending "no"...Which if that is the case, sucks sideways.
So what's next? The PA Derby? Which would no doubt be another easy winner's check.....
Zayat has a wonderful opportunity to showcase this horse and bring him to where the real fans will show up. AP if handled properly could be a boon to horse racing.
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08-02-2015, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaLover
I think the best spot is going to be JC Gold Cup against older and then BCC of course...
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Sure....But that's 60 days off.
Can AP be kept sharp with a two month layoff?
The Travers is 27 days from now. That spot fits very nicely.
27 days. Then 33 days to the JCGC. Then 28 days to the BC Classic.
Looks like a winner to me.
Last edited by thespaah; 08-02-2015 at 07:18 PM.
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08-02-2015, 07:25 PM
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I think either Awesome Again at Santa Anita on Sept 26 or Penn Derby at Parx on Sept 19. I think Baffert is not so fond of Travers and Zayat said he wants the sport to enjoy the horse as he isn't so high on the money portion, so added purse money not too much of a factor. (although we just saw 3/4 million thrown into the Haskell several days before the race). I'll go with Penn Derby since Baffert won last year with Bayern there after running 10th at the Travers.
Last edited by Longshot6977; 08-02-2015 at 07:27 PM.
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08-02-2015, 07:29 PM
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Of course, if you're a member of Dumb Ass Partners,
you might be planning something like this for AP:
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Racingwithbruno @Racingwithbruno 35m35 minutes ago
Dumbass partners of California Chrome planning out campaign for American Pharoah to run in Arc De Triomphe & Japan Cup. #dontbetwithbruno
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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08-02-2015, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kash$
It won be the Travers. ..Baffert hates Saratoga..
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Don't think this is true.
Standing by the van when Point Given arrived in Saratoga, I was smitten. And rightfully so...just after his winning the Preakness, the Belmont and the Haskell, he added the Travers. The connections will go where the money is.
As much as I'd like to see Pharoah again, I hope the choice will be the Travers. But the Woodward, facing older would be nice. After today, though, I'm not convinced its necessary to see him face older before the Classic. Why? And who? As in, at this point, who can beat him?
It was my thinking that there would only be one more start prior to the Classic, and I could be mistaken on this.
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08-02-2015, 07:33 PM
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It's a close call between Philly and Delmar. Baffert and Zayat split 400k at Philly just to show up, and that's before any negotiations for more appearance fees , and Delmar was talking about putting together a 5 million dollar bonus if he runs there, then Santa Anita and then Keeneland. I'm hoping it's Delmar.
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08-02-2015, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Just as I had figured, it was what I call a "pari-mutuel workout" for AP....
Smith had him wrapped up for the better part of the last 3/16ths..
The horse is truly on top of his game.
Now, logically, the Travers should be next. However I can see Baffert recommending "no"...Which if that is the case, sucks sideways.
So what's next? The PA Derby? Which would no doubt be another easy winner's check.....
Zayat has a wonderful opportunity to showcase this horse and bring him to where the real fans will show up. AP if handled properly could be a boon to horse racing.
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It was very fluid motion into the turn.. But clearly you meant Victor, right?
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08-02-2015, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Just as I had figured, it was what I call a "pari-mutuel workout" for AP....
Smith had him wrapped up for the better part of the last 3/16ths..
The horse is truly on top of his game.
Now, logically, the Travers should be next. However I can see Baffert recommending "no"...Which if that is the case, sucks sideways.
So what's next? The PA Derby? Which would no doubt be another easy winner's check.....
Zayat has a wonderful opportunity to showcase this horse and bring him to where the real fans will show up. AP if handled properly could be a boon to horse racing.
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I thought I saw Victor Espinoza Riding AP not Mike Smith.
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08-02-2015, 07:53 PM
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I highly recommend the Travers at Saratoga. It's the biggest, most important 3-year-old dirt race of the summer. A lot of popular horses that have run in the Triple Crown ran in the Travers. Plus, when you have an amazing Triple Crown winner like American Pharoah running at a very popular summer track like Saratoga, that is a deal you can't turn down.
It's simple. American Pharoah + Saratoga = greatness. No doubt.
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08-02-2015, 08:06 PM
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I hope it's the Travers. But at this point, I just want to enjoy whenever or wherever he races.
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