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Old 03-31-2023, 04:43 PM   #466
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Science.

Based on Pfizer's clinical trial data (23% higher overall death rate in the vaccinated group than the placebo group) never should have been given EUA in the first place... or mandated... or allowed it to be given to kids.

Hoping the CDC follows suit.


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This is exactly what a lot of thoughtful medical people were suggesting from the start after they looked at the risk of omicron to young people. It was so low and there were so many red flags associated with the vaccine (including the known higher risk of myocarditis to that group) only a Satanic devil worshipping slime-ball or a raging incompetent would have been aggressively pushing the vaccine or mandating it to that age group. Even if you thought the risk reward was still very slightly favorable, it was so small the risks of the red flags still being investigated were all downside. It you want to make it available, I’d say that was highly suspect policy. No F’n way you aggressively push it or mandate it! The WHO is full of a bunch of corrupt incompetents and our current administration is worse.
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Old 04-08-2023, 03:56 PM   #467
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Stanford.Edu | April 5, 2023
Change in COVID vaccination policy:
https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/co...nation-policy/

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Dear Stanford community,

As spring quarter begins, we are writing to let you know that Stanford is sunsetting the requirement for COVID vaccinations.

Effective Monday, April 10, the university will no longer require – but continue to strongly recommend – COVID vaccinations and boosters for faculty, staff, postdoctoral scholars, and students.

Not much coverage by the Press.

Imo, for anything that's good:

You don't need to lie about the benefits, censor opposing views, lie about the side effects, or mandate it.

Stanford isn't the first to 'sunset' their vaccine mandate.

Better late than never.



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Old 04-08-2023, 04:06 PM   #468
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Change in COVID vaccination policy:
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Not much coverage by the Press.

Imo, for anything that's good:

You don't need to lie about the benefits, censor opposing views, lie about the side effects, or mandate it.

Stanford isn't the first to 'sunset' their vaccine mandate.

Better late than never.



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I thought vaccine mandates were long gone.
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Old 04-08-2023, 04:09 PM   #469
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Change in COVID vaccination policy:
https://healthalerts.stanford.edu/co...nation-policy/





Not much coverage by the Press.

Imo, for anything that's good:

You don't need to lie about the benefits, censor opposing views, lie about the side effects, or mandate it.

Stanford isn't the first to 'sunset' their vaccine mandate.

Better late than never.



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Old 04-08-2023, 04:09 PM   #470
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I thought vaccine mandates were long gone.
Not at colleges and universities.


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Old 04-09-2023, 08:44 PM   #471
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Coronavirus: Vaccination

In principle, no COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for spring/summer 2023. People at especially high risk can receive a vaccination following an individual consultation with their doctor.
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Is vaccination recommended for spring/summer 2023?

In principle, no COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for spring/summer 2023. Nearly everyone in Switzerland has been vaccinated and/or contracted and recovered from COVID-19. Their immune system has therefore been exposed to the coronavirus...
Wait, are they allowed to do that?

Mention natural immunity?


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Old 04-09-2023, 08:50 PM   #472
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Covids over... Ok what's next!

Monkeypox quickly fizzled out.

Bring back Zika or Swine Flu 2.0?

Anthrax?
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Old 04-10-2023, 01:07 AM   #473
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Die Welt | Philipp Gut
Amtlich bestätigt: Impfung ist gefährlich:
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The Swiss government didn't stop at no longer recommending mRNA Covid Vaccines.

They also made Physicians giving out the doses liable for vaccine side effects.



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This should be blaring headline news...but instead...we get Trump 24/7...again

Working as intended...

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Old 04-10-2023, 12:56 PM   #475
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Old 04-10-2023, 01:03 PM   #476
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46? 46?
46er would probably tell us that the Swiss & German doctors are educationally-deprived and they should all be recycled through real medical schools.
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Alex Berenson Substack | 04-18-2023
VERY URGENT: the FDA is raising the white flag on the mRNA Covid shots:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...is-raising-the

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Unvaccinated adults will no longer be offered more than a single mRNA dose. (Tell that to the 230 million Americans who already took two.) And almost no one under 65 is eligible for a second booster.
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The Food and Drug Administration just all-but-gave up on mRNA Covid jabs.

This afternoon, under the guise of “simplify(ing)” the Covid vaccination schedule, the FDA ended the two-dose mRNA vaccination regimen for unvaccinated people.

Americans who have not yet been vaccinated can now receive only a single dose of the newer “bivalent” vaccines, which supposedly work better against the Omicron strain -though real-world evidence of their improved effectiveness is nearly nonexistent.

Not sure the FDA's 180 on multiple mRNA Covid shots matters at this point.

Demand for the shots has pretty much cratered.

Less than 1 in 9,000 Americans are getting a booster each day.

In Germany, where the vaccines were rolled out in a big way before they were rolled out in a big way here is the US, the number is closer to 1 in 40,000.

To me it looks like the FDA is just following in the footsteps of countries in Europe... Denmark, Switzerland, etc.


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VERY URGENT: the FDA is raising the white flag on the mRNA Covid shots:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...is-raising-the






Not sure the FDA's 180 on multiple mRNA Covid shots matters at this point.

Demand for the shots has pretty much cratered.

Less than 1 in 9,000 Americans are getting a booster each day.

In Germany, where the vaccines were rolled out in a big way before they were rolled out in a big way here is the US, the number is closer to 1 in 40,000.

To me it looks like the FDA is just following in the footsteps of countries in Europe... Denmark, Switzerland, etc.


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Don't tell Mostpost now. He has already had 8 shots. I haven't been watching the news of late. Is this even making the news or is it just going to be a Media goes silent moment.
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A lot of what's going on now is too little too late.

The people that pushed vaccination hard enough to mandate it destroyed the careers and lives of many people that already had immunity from infection even though it was obvious it wasn't necessary.

If even 10% of the red flags on safety are accurate they also damaged many people physically who were at very low risk from Covid.

I hate that they may all get away with it.

There's a long list of things I hate about the current administration and mainstream media. This ranks right up there near the top. They are all some combination of corrupt, incompetent, or intrinsically evil people. Those that still trust and listen to them without some level of healthy skepticism are dumber than a pile of rocks.
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Alex Berenson Substack | Apr 21, 2023
URGENT: Moderna hid serious side effects suffered by its Covid vaccine recipients when it reported clinical trial results for the shot:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...s-side-effects

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Moderna scientists said in a 2021 paper no mRNA jab recipients in the trial had "serious adverse effects." In fact, 14 ultimately did, including three miscarriages. No placebo recipients did.
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In February 2021, Moderna scientists published results from the Phase 2 trial of the company’s mRNA Covid jab in the journal Vaccine.

Moderna had started the “P201” trial with 600 healthy volunteers on May 29, 2020, mostly to examine if the shots were safe.

The company had good news on that front. In the “Highlights” section at the top of the paper, Moderna’s scientists reported:

No serious adverse effects were observed.

That statement was untrue.

Oddly, later in the paper, Moderna’s scientists contradicted what they had said in the Highlights section. They noted the company had received a single report of a serious side effect in a jab recipient, a case of pneumonia that lasted almost a month.

That statement was also untrue.

Two months before the Vaccine paper, Moderna had reported not one but three cases of serious side effects in P201 trial subjects who received mRNA to the Food and Drug Administration.

The FDA downplayed the side effect reports, including the pneumonia case, saying it did not believe they were related to the shot.

But serious side effects in the jab recipients continued after the company’s initial disclosures to the FDA.

By the time Moderna’s scientists finished revising the Vaccine paper in early February, the company may have received up to four more reports of serious side effects. In all, during the placebo-controlled phase of the trial, which ended in early 2021, seven of the 400 healthy volunteers who received a two-shot regimen of Moderna’s vaccine suffered serious side effects. (Two hundred of those volunteers received the 100-microgram dose that became the approved version, while another 200 received a lower 50-microgram dose.)

The problems included a heart attack and two miscarriages.

In comparison, the 200 people who received a placebo shot without any mRNA had no serious side effects.

Seven vs. zero.



And after the placebo-controlled phase of the trial ended, more side effects piled up when trial subjects received a booster. Those problems included a third miscarriage.

By the time Moderna stopped collecting safety data from the trial in mid-2021, 14 out of 550 people who received jabs in the trial had suffered serious side effects. (The number of subjects who received mRNA in the P201 trial rose in early 2021 when Moderna broke the trial blind and offered placebo recipients the shot. 158 of them took it.)

The company never updated the Vaccine paper with any of these reports. On December 30, 2022 the federal clinicaltrials.gov Website quietly posted final safety data from P201, including all the serious adverse event reports.
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Beyond calling Moderna’s honesty into question, the P201 data raise a broader and arguably even more troubling issue.

Because it started in May 2020, two months before the big pivotal trials, the P201 trial had a placebo-controlled arm for longer than any other mRNA Covid jab trial.

Regulators and public health experts had always believed that if the shots had side effects, they would be evident quickly. Moncef Slaoui, the head of Operation Warp Speed, the government program that helped develop the jabs, told federal officials that 99 percent of side effects from vaccines became visible within 60 days.

But the gap in serious side effects between placebo and vaccine recipients widened for as long as the P201 trial progressed, belying Slaoui’s assumption.

The P201 results raise the question of what might have happened if regulators had forced Moderna and Pfizer to continue collecting placebo-controlled safety their much larger pivotal Phase 3 clinical trials for even two or three more months in early 2021.

Instead, almost immediately after regulators okayed the use of the mRNA Covid shots in December 2020, Pfizer and Moderna offered placebo recipients in P201 and the big trials the chance to take the active vaccine. Most did.

As a result, we do not have and will never have long-term safety data comparing people who received the jabs with those who received a placebo. The P201 safety dataset is the longest publicly available.



It is not comforting.

The miscarriage reports are striking, given the small number of women of childbearing age - almost certainly no more than 150, and possibly closer to 100 - in the trial.

Worse, in its final report on side effects, Moderna disclosed a third miscarriage in 2021 in a P201 trial subject after she received a booster shot. (Moderna began testing boosters on the P201 trialists in January 2021, at a time when the public was being told that Covid boosters would probably not be needed for years, if ever.)

In all, in its final report, Moderna counted a total of 11 people who suffered serious side effects among about 350 people who received the jabs plus a single booster shot.

In addition, two placebo recipients suffered serious side effects after the trial was unblinded and they took the jab. Finally, in the trial’s final phase, Moderna gave 60 people a second booster; one of those 60 developed stage four cancer.

Imo, if you think this looks bad - that's because it is.



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