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[Fager Fan]

Reaction to Trump saying he's going to bar transgenders from the military.

Typically, the only ones whining are the LGBTQ community (I always wonder why they think they should all be linked together) and the outspoken liberals who think it's being a good lib and good person to support whatever the LGBTQ community wants.

Comments from Joe Public are surprisingly running about 99 to 1 in favor of Trump on this one.

The military is about putting together the best fighting machine possible. Some man wanting to run around in skirts and pantyhose is an unneeded and unwanted distraction. If you're so inclined to change your sex superficially down the road, fine, you go for it, but after you're out of the military, not while you're in it.

It's good to see common sense ruling public opinion on this.

[FantasticDan]

99-1 in favor, . Good one.

President Dipshit's tweets do not equal policy. The military was completely blindsided by his announcement. There is no plan or policy to implement these changes.

And if a plan actually is eventually produced, well, you can expect an avalanche of challenges to it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/u...trump-ban.html

[Marshall Bennett]

Not knowing for certain the gender of the person I'm hunkering down with in a foxhole would bother many. Regardless of your opinion Dan as to whether its a valid emotion or not, it still exist with many and shouldn't be a distraction.
Trump is right, even though his approach is questionable. I'm sure had he announced his intentions, the public outcry by liberal crybabies like yourself would have been deafening and a sideshow to the real issue.
Get over it.

[proximity]

i saw yesterday's front page headline in usa today: transgender troops in LIMBO and my first thought was.... who's gonna hold the bar?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

LGBTQ community wants.

The Trump administration is right on this one, our armed forces need young people to get in line, learn, and perform. This is not someplace people can go to get repaired, out of the box you function to conform to a standard. You want something else you go someplace else plain and simple, the 100 % voluntary does not mean broken. Many individuals get injured losing life and limb in service to our country, and we have to raise the bar of help to these deserving people. This social experiment invented by the left should be placed in the dumpster for incineration asap. People here come running to help the lefts every little whiny little issue like the vast majority wants to hear their crap, freedom of speech yes but really care NFW.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by fast4522

The Trump administration is right on this one, our armed forces need young people to get in line, learn, and perform. This is not someplace people can go to get repaired, out of the box you function to conform to a standard. You want something else you go someplace else plain and simple, the 100 % voluntary does not mean broken. Many individuals get injured losing life and limb in service to our country, and we have to raise the bar of help to these deserving people. This social experiment invented by the left should be placed in the dumpster for incineration asap. People here come running to help the lefts every little whiny little issue like the vast majority wants to hear their crap, freedom of speech yes but really care NFW.

Exactly. You want to change your sex, then do it on your own dime either before or after service in the military. No one has the right to ask me to pay for their mental issues.

[chadk66]

yea this was a no brainer. as has been said a million times the military is no place for a social experiment.

[Inner Dirt]

I don't think you should just kick out those that are already in, that is not fair. On the other hand we don't need people who are using the military as a free ride for sexual reassignment surgery, like with that traitor Chelsea Manning. Especially with what must be a lot of mental issues involved going through the process.

What I propose is let them in if they have already completed the full physical sex change process. Anyone who wants to change sex during their service time gets an honorable discharge. I don't mind a soldier getting a full ride to college as a benefit to military service, I am not for Joe getting a free ride to become Josephine.

[elysiantraveller]

I, personally, along with the Joint Chiefs wasn't aware this was a problem. Certainly not one that needed the almighty Twitter account to legislate it.

Thanks for clearing that up President Trump!

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

99-1 in favor, . Good one.

President Dipshit's tweets do not equal policy. The military was completely blindsided by his announcement. There is no plan or policy to implement these changes.

And if a plan actually is eventually produced, well, you can expect an avalanche of challenges to it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/u...trump-ban.html

The left challenges everything. What's new? The good news is we have some positive changes in the Supreme Court.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I, personally, along with the Joint Chiefs wasn't aware this was a problem. Certainly not one that needed the almighty Twitter account to legislate it.

Trump cited "costs" as his reason for the ban. A Dept of Defense study conducted last year determined annual transition-related health care costs for active duty personnel is between $2.4-8.4M. That's 1/1000 of 1% of the Defense Dept's annual budget.

According to a study by the Military Times, the Defense Dept spends $85M a year on erectile dysfunction pills

With Trump now the Commander in Chief, that will likely go up to $86M

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

According to a study by the Military Times, the Defense Dept spends $85M a year on erectile dysfunction pills

That's wrong too and Trump should cut out the funding for those pills.
The Government has little or no business being involved in a nation's bedrooms.

[jimmyb]

As commander in chief of the military, Trump can indeed dictate policy. As ex military and a citizen of the U.S., I believe he is doing the right thing.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Don't ask. Don't tell. That was working just fine.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown

Don't ask. Don't tell. That was working just fine.

I prefer the "Can shoot and want to serve.... don't care." Line