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Old 04-28-2018, 09:08 AM   #1
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This article best describes Trump

Charles is back, (partially), after many months of battling post surgery complications and enduring lengthy rehabilitation. Please read his message about Trump, about whom he has not been kind at times with his observations. This article is interesting for all who may want to see what Dr K has analyzed during his lengthy absence…
“This is from Charles Krauthammer who did not go for Trump, read what he thinks of him now!
Charles Krauthammer's interesting take on Mr. Trump:
To my friends "of a different persuasion" I'm not trying to sell anything or
anyone but I do feel this is an interesting take on our very controversial
president who I truly believe is not Republican or Democrat.
A TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP ...
A different take on Donald Trump: (a non-political agenda)
Trump Is Not A Liberal or Conservative, He's a "Pragmatist." (Definition: A
pragmatist is someone who is practical and focused on reaching a goal. A
pragmatist usually has a straightforward, matter-of-fact approach and
doesn't let emotion distract him or her.)
"We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of
other friends. The dinner conversation varied from discussions about antique
glass and china to theology and politics.
At one point, reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative, to
which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.
I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a
conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees
a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn't see the problem as
liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality
that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of
myself.
Viewing problems from a Liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of
more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government,
more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all
economic strata.
Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative
perspective has brought continued spending and globalism to the detriment of
American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are,
weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife
Deputy Sheriff, appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief,
it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to
the ass of the Democrat Party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem, it isn't a Liberal problem, it is a
problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It
demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one
group or another.
The impending collapse of the economy wasn't a Liberal or Conservative
problem, it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a
problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be
fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things
and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting
effect.
Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they
do not promise to accommodate.
Trump uniquely understands that China's manipulation of currency is not a
Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our
financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it.
Here again, successful businessmen, like Trump, who have weathered the
changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make
business work, and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that
if something doesn't work, you don't continue trying to make it work hoping
that at some point it will.
As a pragmatist, Donald Trump hasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a
cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum
wage for working the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and
find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating
more problems.
You may not like Donald Trump, but I suspect that the reason some people do
not like him is because:
(1) he is antithetical to the "good old boy" method of brokering backroom
deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;
(2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a president speak who is unencumbered
by the financial shackles of those who he owes vis-a-vis donations;
(3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology;
(4) he says what he is thinking, is unapologetic for his outspoken thoughts,
speaks very straightforward using everyday language that can be understood
by all (and is offensive to some who dislike him anyway) making him a great
communicator, for the most part, does what he says he will do and;
(5) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises
and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is
like listening to two lunatics trying to "out crazy" one another. Jeb Bush,
John Kasich and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the
bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush
can deny it, but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts is that
people don't give tens of millions without expecting something in return.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us?
Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it
been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist is just what America needs right now. People are
quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common
among those who have never accomplished anything in their lives (or
politicians who never really solved a problem, because it's better to still
have an "issue(s) to be solved," so re-elect me to solve it, (which never
happens) and those who have always played it safe (again, all politicians)
not willing to risk failure, to try and achieve success).
Donald Trump put his total financial empire at risk in running for president
and certainly did not need or possibly even want the job; that says it all.
He wants success for the U.S. and her citizens because he loves his country.
God Bless America
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:00 AM   #2
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I love reading the opinions on this forum; I learn a lot, but too often 'statements' are made or 'articles' are posted without providing bona fide references that back up said statements or articles. Opinions do not need references, but statements of fact/articles do.

Case in point: Although, in my opinion, a very insightful article, apparently, Charles Krauthammer is not the author of the article.

"Incorrect Attribution!"
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A column by political activist and commentator Mychal S. Massie has been incorrectly labeled “Charles Krauthammer’s Interesting Take on President Trump.”

The column appeared at Massie’s personal blog site, The Daily Rant, in 2016 under the headline, “Trump is Not Conservative, He’s a Pragmatist.” By early 2018, the column was being circulated under the headline, “Charles Krauthammer’s Interesting Take on President Trump.”
https://www.truthorfiction.com/charl...esident-trump/

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Old 04-28-2018, 10:07 AM   #3
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I love reading the opinions on this forum; I learn a lot, but too often 'statements' are made or 'articles' are posted without providing bona fide references that back up said statements or articles. Opinions do not need references, but facts do.

Case in point: Although, in my opinion, a very insightful article, apparently, Charles Krauthammer is not the author of the article.

"Incorrect Attribution!"
https://www.truthorfiction.com/charl...esident-trump/
i did not try to mislead you or any other reader of this article.

i guess this is misleading and should be taken down off this board due to wrong author.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:23 AM   #4
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i did not try to mislead you or any other reader of this article.

i guess this is misleading and should be taken down off this board due to wrong author.

Obviously I like the content, I would leave it and suggest the question of who wrote it has been addressed. The question remaining is the bulk of it accurate. This we can examine and for some agonize over.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:28 AM   #5
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No, I don't think it should be taken down. As I said, I find the article to be very insightful. It is a real article; not fake.

I learned a long time ago to research any statement or article that does not include a reference. There is just too much erroneous information out there.

You're being too sensitive to a small criticism. You're not the first here to have innocently/by faith reported incorrect information.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:30 AM   #6
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i did not try to mislead you or any other reader of this article.

i guess this is misleading and should be taken down off this board due to wrong author.
The author may be wrong, but the assessment of Trump is 100% on the mark. I said last year that Trump is not a political ideologue. I also stated that he is a practical businessman, so when he perceives there is a problem in some area, he fixates on fixing it -- not caring who is going to take issue with his solution on the Right or on the Left.

Trump's pragmatism, absent all the political BS, is the main reason Trump is so popular and why he won the election. It's all the main reason, he's quite possibly the most hated president in this history of this nation. The establishment ideologues greatly fear Trump because he's showing Americans how a true can actually accomplish good things for AMERICANS, thereby Making America Great Again. And in doing this, Trump is showing up the establishment politicians for who they really are. They are not for Americans. They are only for themselves!
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Obviously I like the content, I would leave it and suggest the question of who wrote it has been addressed. The question remaining is the bulk of it accurate. This we can examine and for some agonize over.
The article is the author's 'opinion.'

The author believes that Trump is a "pragmatist;" not necessarily a Conservative or a Liberal, nor even a Democrat or a Republican. Do you agree with him? I tend to.
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He is not a Republican. That's for sure.
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I could pretty much tell that wasn't Kraut while I was reading it...I was about to go search for the source of this...thanks for saving me the time.
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Doesn't matter to me who the author is. I would have to agree with most if not all of this regardless the author. It answers some questions for me on why Trump has done some of the things he has done.
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He is not a Republican. That's for sure.
Nor is he a Democrat. And these two facts are at the core of his strength!
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I don't consider him a pragmatist at all.
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Nor is he a Democrat. And these two facts are at the core of his strength!
He needs to start his own party when he is no longer president. If a 3rd party could get enough people in Congress so that no party has majority, compromise would be needed for anything to pass - no more of this block voting crap.
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I find three things that are curious about Trump.

First, a lot of turnover in his administration. He needs to settle on the right people and get working on the right issues.

Second, he's thrown a few people that worked for him under the bus. Bad characteristic if you ask me.

Third, he seems not to know important things about the people who work directly for him. Like Scott Pruitt, Michael Cohen, and Ronny Jackson.

I'll admit that I don't understand Trump's big overall strategy, and he seems to be spending a lot of money that SOMEBODY is going to have to eventually pay back.

He's done some good things for the country. I don't know how much credit he gets for Korea, but peace on the peninsula would be one of the greatest things to happen in the last half century.

He's not as bad as I thought he would be.

Hopefully nobody will have to use Obama or the Clintons to make a reply. Man, that gets old, although I saw a program where a guy said the Republicans chickenshitted Carter for two years.
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I don't consider him a pragmatist at all.
A pragmatist deals with a problem by evaluating the alternatives and picking the solution that works best.

Trump deals with a problem by following his gut instinct, even in areas where he has no experience.
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