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08-26-2010, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
I floated the idea recently, I think it was in one of the HANA threads, that in CA, there should be signs posted advertizing the take-out/vig rates for all wagers. It should be posted on all self service machines, within 20 feet of any wagering window and a pop-up on any online platform.
Call it the truth in wagering law.
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Interesting idea. Perhaps something we should float out there to see if players are supportive of that!?
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08-26-2010, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeanT
Interesting idea. Perhaps something we should float out there to see if players are supportive of that!?
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I like it.
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08-26-2010, 02:18 PM
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I could maybe see getting away with having it printed on the ticket. The tracks would have a sh*t fit if anyone suggested they had to hang signs up.
It would be funny to stand near the machines though and hear the comments from the people who saw the signs.
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08-26-2010, 02:28 PM
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What's missing
What the industry and most horseplayers are missing in their mindset in the future tense. Bettors ARE rebate IS- almost all in racing assumes that not 1 new player will come into the sport. I have never heard of a successful business where they want the exact same number of customers as they have now. Racing loves to move money around but has no clue how to bring in substanial new persons to own or bet on or watch racehorses. Racing is and will keep dying with that attitude and will always be a slave to the economic trends.
People alwayus look at the shortest time period possible, conceding Betfair WILL keep bringing in new players, assuming only an English exchange and not an American one is possible.
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08-26-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
I could maybe see getting away with having it printed on the ticket. The tracks would have a sh*t fit if anyone suggested they had to hang signs up.
It would be funny to stand near the machines though and hear the comments from the people who saw the signs.
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Casinos should do this too. Every slot/vid poker machine should show the rake off of natural odds payoffs, and signs should be posted near the table games.
I actually think racetracks would be more likely to do that than any casino in the USA.
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08-26-2010, 03:03 PM
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IF you want to improve the racing product, ban dinosaurs like Burns from getting anywhere close to it. With all due respect ( ) Mr,. Burns, YOU are what is wrong with this game.
Transfer this bozo to the NYS Thruway Authority - where their answer to diminished use of the TOLL ROAD was to RAISE THE TOLLS! He would fit in nicely with them.
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08-26-2010, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rrbauer
There is ABSOLUTELY NO proof that increasing the price improves the product. Not in horse racing, prostitution or for anything in between. On the contrary, where horse racing is involved if it were the case, then over the past 20 years the finest product imaginable should have evolved and be on display today for horseplayers. Clearly that hasn't happened; indeed, just the opposite is happening.
If horse owners/trainers are so destitute I suggest they either try something else and get out of the business; or, they get in line with the other welfare recipients.
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Having arrested a few hookers in my time, I gotta tell you the 500 dollar types are much better than the fifty dollar types
Sounds to me like burns is doing the same ole song and dance we have heard before.
It will never change until we can hit them in their pockets
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08-26-2010, 04:40 PM
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Betfair and their ilk will reap what they sow.
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08-26-2010, 06:06 PM
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Doesnt TVG charge for their services?
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08-26-2010, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Having arrested a few hookers in my time, I gotta tell you the 500 dollar types are much better than the fifty dollar types
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Arrested...sure...I believe that that's how you know that $500 types are better!
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08-26-2010, 06:33 PM
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Doesnt TVG charge for their services?
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I don't think they charge the .25 per bet anymore but I could be wrong.
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08-26-2010, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
I don't think they charge the .25 per bet anymore but I could be wrong.
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They still charge 25 cents per bet up to a max 19.95 per month.
Betfair is always looking out for the bettor......yeah right!
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08-26-2010, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andymays
I could maybe see getting away with having it printed on the ticket. The tracks would have a sh*t fit if anyone suggested they had to hang signs up.
It would be funny to stand near the machines though and hear the comments from the people who saw the signs.
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we have the takeout chart posted at all our OTB places as well as right next to the program stands and the mainline of tellers at the track.
it's also printed on the front page of each tracks DRF, generally on or near the entries page.
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08-26-2010, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jballscalls
we have the takeout chart posted at all our OTB places as well as right next to the program stands and the mainline of tellers at the track.
it's also printed on the front page of each tracks DRF, generally on or near the entries page.
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Never noticed that anywhere else. Is it a State rule or law?
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08-26-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
Never noticed that anywhere else. Is it a State rule or law?
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GM's decision
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