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08-19-2010, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I will hold you to that. I am in favor of going back to dirt and I think will help the off track handle some, I think skyrocket is too strong a term. The only thing thats going get handles to skyrocket is lower takeout rates. Ca racing was in deep trouble before they installed plastic and I see nothing that has changed from those times that going to make a difference.
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you are living inside the PA box.
handle is going to jump drastically. the avg fan is too stupid to give a shit about takeout. but they know the difference between dirt and synethics
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08-19-2010, 12:08 AM
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Handicapper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Synthetic Tracks
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Andy,
We've won this battle, but there's more to be done. They all need to go away, IMHO.
Regards,
JeremyJet
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08-19-2010, 12:08 AM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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Originally Posted by andymays
All my big scores happened there. There's something special about that place.
Now we have to get them to put in a 10% takeout early pick 4 bet. That fight will take another 4 years. I'm game.  |
I would much rather have 10% takeout on the win pools. I would really be game for that.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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08-19-2010, 12:09 AM
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Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by andymays
Now we have to get them to put in a 10% takeout early pick 4 bet. That fight will take another 4 years. I'm game. |
Good luck on that one Andy. It'll be up to 24%, just in time for the opening of the new track.
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08-19-2010, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JeremyJet
Andy,
We've won this battle, but there's more to be done. They all need to go away, IMHO.
Regards,
JeremyJet
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The Santa Anita meet has national implications for the Triple Crown and Breeders Cup. The other meets not so much. Once Santa Anita has it in the others in California will feel pressure to switch to dirt (probably not Golden Gate).
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08-19-2010, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DeanT
Good luck on that one Andy. It'll be up to 24%, just in time for the opening of the new track.
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Is the increase on exotics only?
Things can happen if you know how to fight them. Of course you have to get your hands dirty (no pun intended) from time to time. 
You need to get 10k members. Then things can happen.
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08-19-2010, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I would much rather have 10% takeout on the win pools. I would really be game for that. |
It's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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08-19-2010, 12:19 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Sierra Madre, California
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Palermo /Arg. tracks
Aren't these tracks mostly sand?
I know years ago when tracks used to get muddy and heavy, we used to make lots of winning bets on Argentina breds on off tracks, Santa Anita to be specific.
This is very interesting, and we'll have to see what they put down at Santa Anita.
This is exciting news!
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08-19-2010, 12:28 AM
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“We are committed to building a new dirt track,” Stronach said , receiving a round of applause . “We will do it now. We will gather the engineering and look for the materials. After Oak Tree is finished, we will have the track in place by the first week of December. The horses can train over it and we can run over it on Dec. 26.”
Great news,I can bet So.Cal again.
How much I bet depends on the Takeout.
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08-19-2010, 12:30 AM
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Anytime. I've been waiting for almost four years. My self imposed exile will be over by the day afer Christmas. I can go back to Santa Anita again. |
Congratulations Andy for sticking to your guns and not letting this topic die on the vine. We finally won.
It was a tough struggle getting these geniuses to admit that they made a mistake, but tonight, finally.
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08-19-2010, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by David-LV
Congratulations Andy for sticking to your guns and not letting this topic die on the vine. We finally won.
It was a tough struggle getting these geniuses to admit that they made a mistake, but tonight, finally.
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Winner Winner chicken dinner!
Lets hope they don't change their minds.
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08-19-2010, 12:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Congrats to everyone that fought this godforsaken crap.
I think it's time for Pro Ride and all the other synthetic crap to hit the road.
YouTube - Hit The Road Jack - Ray Charles by Hermes House Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8eqgAifqiQ
Last edited by andymays; 08-19-2010 at 12:43 AM.
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08-19-2010, 12:58 AM
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Hopefully Harper at DMR can read the writing on the wall. He will not be able to compete with a Dirt track at Santa Anita when it comes to handle.
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08-19-2010, 01:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by JeremyJet
Andy,
We've won this battle, but there's more to be done. They all need to go away, IMHO.
Regards,
JeremyJet
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If you write "Regards Jeremy Jet" ( with your name just above your avatar ) one more time. I'm gonna shoot myself right in the face! 
Last edited by v j stauffer; 08-19-2010 at 01:43 AM.
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08-19-2010, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
If you write "Regards Jeremy Jet" ( with your name just above your avatar ) one more time. I'm gonna shoot myself right in the face! |
Hold off, one face injury in your camp at a time!
(congrats on tyler coming back!)
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