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Old 03-09-2024, 02:18 PM   #1
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Make sure you read this CDC Report

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/...ditis-n2393782

It’s a real doozy, about. Myocarditis
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Old 03-09-2024, 03:05 PM   #2
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You KNOW if the vaccines really were safe and effective:

Government alphabet agencies wouldn't be making such a full on censorship effort to hide the data.

Instead they'd upload their huge medical databases populated with patient level data to the cloud and invite everyone who wanted to see the data to download it.

The only redaction would be the patient identities.

They'd also be begging every news organization on the planet to do their own analysis of the data and run headlines reporting how safe the product is.

But that's not what they are doing is it?

And I'm having a hard time figuring out why.


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Old 03-09-2024, 03:24 PM   #3
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It’s a real doozy, about. Myocarditis
"FUCK YOU PEASANTS" This is perfect, exactly what is being said!


So mostpost, you think anyone, especially experts, who question the CDC about the safety of the covid shots is a "nutcase". Why do you suppose the CDC would redact every page of a 148 page report about serious side effects from the covid shots? If the shots are "safe and effective", wouldn't they want this report released to show that to be true? Do you still think the CDC is not hiding anything? I know, dumb question. Of course you still think the CDC is not hiding anything and you will go to your grave claiming the shots are safe and effective, because that's what you are supposed to say.
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Old 03-09-2024, 03:28 PM   #4
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This country has been completely brainwashed.

On a whole host of issues and topics.

There are people in this world who want to hear NOTHING negative or suspicious or anything that raises ANY doubt about this particular precious vaccine. To them this vaccine is like GOD. Sacred.

You better dare say NOTHING bad about it.

It's really because deep down, they know they fucked up...they let their guard down...they bought into all the bullshit...and they don't want to hear a single negative word about it because they don't want their little bubble being burst or they don't want to think they made a mistake.

It's fascinating and bizarre all at the same time. Very smart people otherwise.

I just brought this report up to someone visiting my home right now, and they don't want to hear a word about it...they don't want to know about a completely redacted report...they don't wonder why it might be redacted...they don't even want to discuss it at all...

Their response "I'm not anti-vaccines"

LMAO

Somehow implying that *I* am anti-vaccines (PLURAL EMPHASIZED) for bringing the topic up, which I am most certainly not.

It's literally a cult at this point.
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Old 03-09-2024, 05:02 PM   #5
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Phoney practitioners UNLICENSED an UNEDUCATED
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Old 03-09-2024, 05:11 PM   #6
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Phoney practitioners UNLICENSED an UNEDUCATED
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Old 03-09-2024, 07:38 PM   #8
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Phoney practitioners UNLICENSED an UNEDUCATED
Everybody I agree with is Educated.

Everybody I don't agree with Uneducated.

That is an amazing Hippocratic Oath you hold dear to your heart.
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Old 03-09-2024, 07:47 PM   #9
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at least JOE has determined mRNA vaccines can cure cancer
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from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...19%20difficult.

Quote: Viral infections are a known cause of myocarditis, resulting in a focal to global inflammation of the myocardium . This inflammation can progress to tissue necrosis and subsequent wall dysfunction, raising the risk of sudden cardiac death . Although current literature linking COVID-19 to non-ischemic myocardial injury is insufficient, other forms of coronavirus, such as Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and SARS-CoV, have been found in
cardiac tissue of animals


Myocarditis can present as acute-onset heart failure or cardiogenic shock, which in turn causes symptoms that overlap with COVID-19, including dyspnea, cough, and even fevers . These nonspecific symptoms make clinical diagnosis of myocarditis in the setting of COVID-19 difficult.

Lastly, although not addressed within the study, we wanted to address the theorized link between COVID-19 vaccinations and myocarditis. It was proposed that because SARS-CoV-2 S glycoproteins have similar structure to cardiac-myosin heavy chain protein, antibodies designed to react against the virus glycoprotein reacted against the cardiac proteins instead, resulting in myocarditis. However, a study comparing several peptides from the SARS-CoV-2 spike to 35 cardiac proteins associated with cardiac autoimmunity found that there were no peptides from the spike that matched any cardiac antigen more than 60% in similarity
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Old 03-09-2024, 08:26 PM   #11
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ocarditis.html

Although cases of myocarditis and pericarditis are rare, when cases have occurred, they have most frequently been seen in adolescent and young adult males within 7 days after receiving the second dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.

The severity of myocarditis and pericarditis cases can vary; most patients with myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination have experienced resolution of symptoms by hospital discharge.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...you-be-worried

There have been rare cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) following the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccine in the UK, and it has been listed as a very rare side effect.

Myocarditis has also been listed as a rare possible side effect of the Novavax vaccine, after a very small number of cases were reported during clinical trials.

For every million doses given of the monovalent Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, there have been 10 reports of myocarditis and 6 reports of pericarditis, according to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (as of 23 November 2022). There have been 14 reports of myocarditis and 8 reports of pericarditis for every million doses given of the monovalent Moderna vaccine over the same period.
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Although cases of myocarditis and pericarditis are rare, when cases have occurred, they have most frequently been seen in adolescent and young adult males within 7 days after receiving the second dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.

The severity of myocarditis and pericarditis cases can vary; most patients with myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination have experienced resolution of symptoms by hospital discharge.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...you-be-worried

There have been rare cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) following the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccine in the UK, and it has been listed as a very rare side effect.

Myocarditis has also been listed as a rare possible side effect of the Novavax vaccine, after a very small number of cases were reported during clinical trials.

For every million doses given of the monovalent Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, there have been 10 reports of myocarditis and 6 reports of pericarditis, according to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (as of 23 November 2022). There have been 14 reports of myocarditis and 8 reports of pericarditis for every million doses given of the monovalent Moderna vaccine over the same period.
So in your very informed opinion, knowing a virus had a 99.97% survival rate and was almost entirely a virus that would wipe out the old and those with serious health problems, you can't tell me you believe what you are shoveling.

And well into a year of knowing facts that people under 50 were .1% and kids under 18 at near 0%, would you have still demanded them to take the shots?

Because that is EXACTLY what happened.

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Old 03-09-2024, 10:31 PM   #13
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ocarditis.html

Although cases of myocarditis and pericarditis are rare, when cases have occurred, they have most frequently been seen in adolescent and young adult males within 7 days after receiving the second dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.

The severity of myocarditis and pericarditis cases can vary; most patients with myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination have experienced resolution of symptoms by hospital discharge.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...you-be-worried

There have been rare cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) following the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccine in the UK, and it has been listed as a very rare side effect.

Myocarditis has also been listed as a rare possible side effect of the Novavax vaccine, after a very small number of cases were reported during clinical trials.

For every million doses given of the monovalent Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, there have been 10 reports of myocarditis and 6 reports of pericarditis, according to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (as of 23 November 2022). There have been 14 reports of myocarditis and 8 reports of pericarditis for every million doses given of the monovalent Moderna vaccine over the same period.
You are 11 to 15 times more likely to get Myocarditis from COVID itself than from the vaccine. You are thousands of times more likely to die from Covid
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The largest study of its kind I am aware of comes from Israel.

The observations were made between March 2020 and January 2021 before the mRNA Vaccines were rolled out at scale. This made it easy to exclude the vaccinated from the data, which the researchers did, and end up with a large number of study cohorts, which the researchers also did (retrospective study cohort 196,992 adults and control cohort 590,976 adults.)

The last two sentences (direct quote) from the study Abstract:
" Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection. "


The full study was published in The Journal of Clinical Medicine.

The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study:
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219


An abbreviated version can also be found on the NIH.gov site.

The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/

As far back as January 2021 Israeli researchers were reporting Covid infection wasn't responsible for the increase in myocarditis and pericarditis.



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You KNOW if the vaccines really were safe and effective:

Government alphabet agencies wouldn't be making such a full on censorship effort to hide the data.

Instead they'd upload their huge medical databases populated with patient level data to the cloud and invite everyone who wanted to see the data to download it.

The only redaction would be the patient identities.

They'd also be begging every news organization on the planet to do their own analysis of the data and run headlines reporting how safe the product is.

But that's not what they are doing is it?

And I'm having a hard time figuring out why.


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There are literally dozens of studies out there and they all show the same thing. There is a small increase in the incidence of myocarditis. But it is generally short lived and has few lasting effects. On the other hand an unvaccinated person who contracts Covid is 11 to 15 times more likely to suffer from Myocarditis as a vaccinated person.
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